Cutting cycle without side effects

SalvatoreCorvus

SalvatoreCorvus

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Hi.

Just to create a topic and start talking 😊

Here is my current cycle:

  • 500 testo C
  • 500 primo
  • 300 mast
  • 6ui gh
  • 1mg tirzepatide E5D
  • 25mcg T3
  • 100mcg T4
  • 25mg hydrochlorothiazide

The aim is just to accompany fat loss after bulk (same cycle without tirz and t3/t4).

I have very few side effects, which is why I like to do this.
The gh gives me unpleasant oedemas (increased blood pressure), hence the diuretic.
The tirz gives me burps that smell like sulfur (but I’m going to try the enzymes to fix that).

If there are any questions or opinions, don’t hesitate 😊

(Currently 1m66 / 80kg 12%. Going up to about 8%)

In fact, it’s a cut phase (8 more weeks before cruise and vacation) at the end of bulk (which lasted about twenty weeks). I may have specified it incorrectly.
I didn’t make a transition this time, to see if it’s beneficial or not.

The only thing that has changed is the addition of thyroid hormone and the tirz is more to see how I react (I have a bad experience with semaglutide…)

I mainly have blood work planned at the end, to see what I need to improve and monitor during the cruise (but I’m already good at the moment 😊).

There are some specific markers I want to look at like IGFBP, to see if I have enough free IGF1 (I have my ideas to bypass IGFBP binding)

And others more basic, especially linked to oxidative stress. Perhaps also markers linked to DNA degradation.
Real things to visualize the state of health. Not just “lipid ok? I’m healthy, that’s great.”
 
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In fact, it’s a cut phase (8 more weeks before cruise and vacation) at the end of bulk (which lasted about twenty weeks). I may have specified it incorrectly.
I didn’t make a transition this time, to see if it’s beneficial or not.

The only thing that has changed is the addition of thyroid hormone and the tirz is more to see how I react (I have a bad experience with semaglutide…)

I mainly have blood work planned at the end, to see what I need to improve and monitor during the cruise (but I’m already good at the moment 😊).

There are some specific markers I want to look at like IGFBP, to see if I have enough free IGF1 (I have my ideas to bypass IGFBP binding)

And others more basic, especially linked to oxidative stress. Perhaps also markers linked to DNA degradation.
Real things to visualize the state of health. Not just “lipid ok? I’m healthy, that’s great.”
 
Update on the way.

I have left 6 weeks to go and I've almost reached my initial goal...
Currently 77kg and close to the desired 8% bodyfat. So now it's just a bonus before the cruise.

Little experiment, I want to see how I react to 8iu of HGH. I managed to do without diuretics for 6iu now that I have lost fat and water retention.

I reduced the training volume this week, too difficult to maintain performance and progress. So fewer sets for less fatigue (which allows for balance and to be able to continue to maintain correct performance. Mainly a top set and one or two back-off sets at the most

PPL format (2 days ON 1 day OFF)
 
You was really lucky because with 500mg of testosterone, I used 100-200mg of Primobolan, and my estradiol was around 30. But I didn’t have a high enough level for a good libido.
 
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Update :

Still 2-3kg to lose and it will be good for this year before the cruise. No clen, no tren. I'm not suffering from hunger and I still have no side effects 😁.

Sleep is good, the training is great.

Today it's even carb up. Two days with +300g of carbs per day.

12-15k steps a day and 20 minutes of stairmaster after training (130bpm). Nothing complicated.
 
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Einherjar said:
I've never understood how people who already look great can determine that they need to lose an additional 2-3 kg :D
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This is just the weight I'm likely/will allow myself to regain on cruise before doing a bulking cycle. The goal is to start clean (even after a slight weight gain)

It's just strategic for the next step 😁
 
SalvatoreCorvus said:
There are some specific markers I want to look at like IGFBP, to see if I have enough free IGF1 (I have my ideas to bypass IGFBP binding)
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I also plan on running my own little IGF1 experiment later this summer. When researching, I came across a video from Todd Lee, where he speculated that IGFBP are actually required to transport IGF1, because we don't see the same effects from exogenous IGF1 compared to high doses of GH. What are your thoughts on this and how do you plan on bypassing them?
 
dr. Doping said:
I also plan on running my own little IGF1 experiment later this summer. When researching, I came across a video from Todd Lee, where he speculated that IGFBP are actually required to transport IGF1, because we don't see the same effects from exogenous IGF1 compared to high doses of GH. What are your thoughts on this and how do you plan on bypassing them?
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Do you want to use exogenous IGF-1?
 
Einherjar said:
I think we should make a separate thread about this. There is some interesting throats about this
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There's an interesting thing about this. The case where someone doesn't respond very well to HGH because of too much binding. Different strategies can be implemented to bypass this 👌
 
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