Expert Answered 250 Test-E + HGH + Primo First Cycle?

[Mishimavic]

Hey Everybody,

im thinking about my first cycle.

Im 31 Years old and I weight around 92kg

I bulked up from 80kg since June to around 97kg and now cutting back to 86kg with a quick mini cut. Now im thinking of starting my first cycle End of November. With either just 250mg of Test a week + 4iu HGH and also adding Primobolan (if I can find the real thing). I have everthing on hand Ai, PCT, HCG and the gear. Except the Primo

I did a Dexa scan last week and this came back:

Body Fat Percentage (BF%): 23.2%

Fat Mass: 21.77 kg

Lean Mass: 75.57 kg

Lean Soft Tissue & Bone: 72.02 kg

Resting Metabolic Rate (RMR): ~2,074 kcal

i also did blood work (Note: I was on enclo at that time

Blood Work (As of Oct 21, 2026)

Total Testosterone: 11.80 ng/ml

Estradiol (E2): 46.0 pg/ml (slightly elevated) <- it's probably because I was 23,3% BF. When I started out with the bulk my E2 was 25

SHBG: 43.9 nmol/l

Free Androgen Index (FAI): 93.2%

Prolactin: 10.2 µg/l

LH: 8.1 U/l

FSH: 4.2 U/l

Parameters to Include in Next Blood Panel (HGH / Overall Health)

IGF-1 & HbA1c / Fasting Blood Glucose

Hematocrit & Hemoglobin

Lipid Panel: HDL, LDL, Triglycerides

Organ Markers: Liver (ALT, AST, GGT) & Kidneys (Creatinine, eGFR)

So my question is:

should I add the primo?

am I to fat for the cycle when I cut down to 86kg

is my baseline bloodwork good for the cycle?

how long should I been on? I was thinking around 18 weeks

i will add an picture. The picture was taken when I was 94kg

 

[Donvitosharkone]

Hey Everybody,

im thinking about my first cycle.

Im 31 Years old and I weight around 92kg

I bulked up from 80kg since June to around 97kg and now cutting back to 86kg with a quick mini cut. Now im thinking of starting my first cycle End of November. With either just 250mg of Test a week + 4iu HGH and also adding Primobolan (if I can find the real thing). I have everthing on hand Ai, PCT, HCG and the gear. Except the Primo

I did a Dexa scan last week and this came back:

Body Fat Percentage (BF%): 23.2%

Fat Mass: 21.77 kg

Lean Mass: 75.57 kg

Lean Soft Tissue & Bone: 72.02 kg

Resting Metabolic Rate (RMR): ~2,074 kcal

i also did blood work (Note: I was on enclo at that time

Blood Work (As of Oct 21, 2026)

Total Testosterone: 11.80 ng/ml

Estradiol (E2): 46.0 pg/ml (slightly elevated) <- it's probably because I was 23,3% BF. When I started out with the bulk my E2 was 25

SHBG: 43.9 nmol/l

Free Androgen Index (FAI): 93.2%

Prolactin: 10.2 µg/l

LH: 8.1 U/l

FSH: 4.2 U/l

Parameters to Include in Next Blood Panel (HGH / Overall Health)

IGF-1 & HbA1c / Fasting Blood Glucose

Hematocrit & Hemoglobin

Lipid Panel: HDL, LDL, Triglycerides

Organ Markers: Liver (ALT, AST, GGT) & Kidneys (Creatinine, eGFR)

So my question is:

should I add the primo?

am I to fat for the cycle when I cut down to 86kg

is my baseline bloodwork good for the cycle?

how long should I been on? I was thinking around 18 weeks

i will add an picture. The picture was taken when I was 94kg

Mishimavic!

Brother, I like that you’re doing bloodwork and thinking ahead instead of jumping straight into your first cycle.

But I’ll be straight with you. I think you’re rushing things, and you still need more experience before considering PEDs. Bulking 17 kilos in 4 months and then cutting -11 of them up is NOT a way to become a bodybuilder, but to quickly scrap your blood pressure, glomerular filtration rate and take your body to the limit (you are accelerating your Ferrari from 0-100 mph in 3 seconds but between light stops )

At 23% body fat, I would focus on getting leaner first. Aim for around 12–15%, maintain that condition for a while, and learn how your body responds to proper training and nutrition.

You’ve already gained and lost quite a bit of weight in just a few months. That’s exactly why I’d rather see you build a more consistent foundation before introducing hormones.

Also, your testosterone results were taken while using enclomiphene, so they aren’t a reliable natural baseline.

I would say (unless is already fully decided), Forget Primo, HGH and 18-week cycles for now. Get leaner, establish a proper baseline without hormonal stimulation, and complete your bloodwork.

And brother, don’t take this as criticism. At 31, you have plenty of time to build an impressive physique. You just need to master the basics before adding complexity.

The best first cycle is the one you don’t need yet.

Keep us updated on your cut. I’d genuinely like to see your progress!

Shark