First Cycle

[Wizax]

Hello Guys, I am a 20 years old, 183cm, Was 115kg around 25-20% bodyfat when i started my cycle
PR: BenchP 180kg, Squat 220kg

Pre Cycle Blood Work:

Cycle:

15 weeks Test E 500mg (x2 250mg weekly)
bi-weekly cycle Clen 40mcg Daily
MK677 10 ( Before bed )
15week HCG 500UI (x2 250 UI Weekly)
last 6 weeks i will add 20mg Anavar
Tadalafil Daily

Roadmap:

1st Cycle Roadmap

docs.google.com

Supplements:

Multivitamin (low iron)	Milk Thistle
Vitamin D3	TUDCA
Omega-3 (EPA/DHA)	Astragalus Extract
Citrus Bergamot	L-Glutamine
CoQ10	Magnesium
Taurine	Selenium
Boron (if added)	DIM
Berberine (AM dose)	Zinc (optional)
Choline / DMAE (DIM)	Berberine (PM dose)
	Nebivolol (when needed)
L-Carnitine	Anastrozole AI (when need)
Creatine
Electrolyte Supplement
Ashwagandha

Electrolytes are directly on price

Goals:

The main point of this cycle is to lose bodyweight as i preserve as much as possible Muscle or even try to gain a bit

Week 3 Updates:

Effects: Strength is going up, on 2.3k Calories and i can still hit my PRs and have energy throught all the training session, I look leaner but 118.4 on scale

 

[Wizax]

My question is, When should i have my next Blood work for Mid Cycle and what should i look at?

 

[dr. Doping]

15 weeks Test E 500mg (x2 250mg weekly)

Enanthate *should* be pinned atleast EOD, in my opinion. It has a half life of 4,5 days and even though you could inject 2x per week, I think the hassle of injecting EOD is negligible in comparison to how much more stable your hormone levels are.

bi-weekly cycle Clen 40mcg Daily
MK677 10 ( Before bed )

What are trying to do here??? Clen is used for fat burning and is a potent and dangerous stimulant. Mk677 is a ghrelin mimetic and will make you so hungry it will negate any effects from clen.

Otherwise, seems solid

 

[Wizax]

Enanthate *should* be pinned atleast EOD, in my opinion. It has a half life of 4,5 days and even though you could inject 2x per week, I think the hassle of injecting EOD is negligible in comparison to how much more stable your hormone levels are.

This is the most advice i heard, i will try to apply it, my question is, i have 1ml amps of 250mg/ml, if i want to inject Every Other Day, how much should i inject (mg-wise) and how do i store the rest?

What are trying to do here??? Clen is used for fat burning and is a potent and dangerous stimulant. Mk677 is a ghrelin mimetic and will make you so hungry it will negate any effects from clen.

Otherwise, seems solid

MK677 hunger effect blunts on me after 3-6 days but also im mainly using it for the Growth Hormone factor of it, I am very aware of the Clen danger, im watching my hydration, keeping my Minerals intake optimised and making sure i get my 4 hours cardio weekly


I have a question:

When should i get my Mid Cycle blood work (which week and after how long from injecting ?)

 

[dr. Doping]

This is the most advice i heard, i will try to apply it, my question is, i have 1ml amps of 250mg/ml, if i want to inject Every Other Day, how much should i inject (mg-wise) and how do i store the rest?

I prefer multi dose vials. for this precise reason. I inject 0,1ml of masteron, 0,2ml of testosterone and 0,4ml of primobolan everyday, so vials are a must for me. As far as storing goes, you could safely preload syringes (I can't recommend insulin syringes enough, they make injecting much easier, expecially if you preload and don't have to wait to fill them up every day/EOD). Anctodally, the limit for storing oil in syringes seems to be 1-2 weeks. Ofcourse store them in a dark and cool place (like a closet or drawer). As far as injection volume and frequency goes, you should be able to calculate them yourself, if you want to play around with peds, but I'll help you out with this, since I had to learn that too on my first cycle. To calculate your weekly dosage, take the dose you administer, divide by the frequency of administrations and multiply by 7 (number of days per week). In my case on my current cycle, I pin 50mg of testosterone everyday. 50mg divided by 1 is 50, multiplied by 7 is 350mg. That's my testosterone dosage per week. When I go into a cruise, I'll probably inject 75mg every other day, so 75mg divided by 2 is 37,5mg, times 7 is 262,5mg per week. A good way to never miss an injection is to have a reminder in your phone. Before starting everyday injections, I had reminders in my calendar, the added benefit is that I can trace back for my whole roiding history on which days I injected.
Sorry for the long explanation, I am really passionate about this stuff and want to help people understand peds to the best of my ability.

MK677 hunger effect blunts on me after 3-6 days but also im mainly using it for the Growth Hormone factor of it

Ok, good to know you have experience with Mk. If you know how you respond, go on, I'll just share my experience: I ran it 2 times and both times I disliked it. I hold way too much water (even on 10mg per day) and even 4iu of actual GH don't come close with the water retention. I feel anxious on it, the hunger is insane and it starts to affect my sleep in a few weeks.

I am very aware of the Clen danger, im watching my hydration, keeping my Minerals intake optimised and making sure i get my 4 hours cardio weekly

Very good to hear. I'd personally stay away from such hardcore drugs for a first cycle, but if you know what you're doing, some risk is fine. I recommend Vigorous steve on youtube for information on these topics.

When should i get my Mid Cycle blood work (which week and after how long from injecting ?)

Testosterone enanthate takes 3 weeks to saturate, so I'd say atleast 3-4 weeks after you adjust your dosing schedule. Realistically, you'd need to test just testosterone (it's often above the upper limits, I usually hhave to ask them to dilute it) and estradiol (maybe prolactin because of MK). If you have the option, I'd say get your test, e2 and mybe prolactin tested about 4 weeks after starting the cycle (or adjusting your frequency, if you already started), then get tested again sometime before adding anavar, but also test your lipids, liver, kidney and CBC markers (probably no need to test your testosterone and e2 then).
Regarding when to ge tested in relation to injecting: I always get tested on the day when I have to pin BEFORE pinning.

Also big props for the PCT. HCG is very useful for cycles, not to mention the neurosteroid production really helps with mood. Then you wait 3 weeks to clean out exogenous test, but stay on HCG and then transition to enclomiphene. If I ever come off, my PCT will look very similar to this.

 

[Wizax]

I prefer multi dose vials. for this precise reason. I inject 0,1ml of masteron, 0,2ml of testosterone and 0,4ml of primobolan everyday, so vials are a must for me. As far as storing goes, you could safely preload syringes (I can't recommend insulin syringes enough, they make injecting much easier, expecially if you preload and don't have to wait to fill them up every day/EOD). Anctodally, the limit for storing oil in syringes seems to be 1-2 weeks. Ofcourse store them in a dark and cool place (like a closet or drawer). As far as injection volume and frequency goes, you should be able to calculate them yourself, if you want to play around with peds, but I'll help you out with this, since I had to learn that too on my first cycle. To calculate your weekly dosage, take the dose you administer, divide by the frequency of administrations and multiply by 7 (number of days per week). In my case on my current cycle, I pin 50mg of testosterone everyday. 50mg divided by 1 is 50, multiplied by 7 is 350mg. That's my testosterone dosage per week. When I go into a cruise, I'll probably inject 75mg every other day, so 75mg divided by 2 is 37,5mg, times 7 is 262,5mg per week. A good way to never miss an injection is to have a reminder in your phone. Before starting everyday injections, I had reminders in my calendar, the added benefit is that I can trace back for my whole roiding history on which days I injected.
Sorry for the long explanation, I am really passionate about this stuff and want to help people understand peds to the best of my ability.

Thanks for your time and help, i know how much to inject if im going for EOD also you answered a very confusing question which was the storage post cracking the amp

Ok, good to know you have experience with Mk. If you know how you respond, go on, I'll just share my experience: I ran it 2 times and both times I disliked it. I hold way too much water (even on 10mg per day) and even 4iu of actual GH don't come close with the water retention. I feel anxious on it, the hunger is insane and it starts to affect my sleep in a few weeks.

I do admit that i feel like i will faint from hunger and no matter how much i eat i can eat more the first few days but later on i dont feel it and water retention is not that bad on me, it also clear my skin so much

Very good to hear. I'd personally stay away from such hardcore drugs for a first cycle, but if you know what you're doing, some risk is fine. I recommend Vigorous steve on youtube for information on these topics.

Yes, my electrolytes dosages are from him already, but thanks alot

Testosterone enanthate takes 3 weeks to saturate, so I'd say atleast 3-4 weeks after you adjust your dosing schedule. Realistically, you'd need to test just testosterone (it's often above the upper limits, I usually hhave to ask them to dilute it) and estradiol (maybe prolactin because of MK). If you have the option, I'd say get your test, e2 and mybe prolactin tested about 4 weeks after starting the cycle (or adjusting your frequency, if you already started), then get tested again sometime before adding anavar, but also test your lipids, liver, kidney and CBC markers (probably no need to test your testosterone and e2 then).
Regarding when to ge tested in relation to injecting: I always get tested on the day when I have to pin BEFORE pinning.

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Also big props for the PCT. HCG is very useful for cycles, not to mention the neurosteroid production really helps with mood. Then you wait 3 weeks to clean out exogenous test, but stay on HCG and then transition to enclomiphene. If I ever come off, my PCT will look very similar to this.

Yes on my roadmap im planning to keep the HCG even when im done with test and waitting for my PCT, but i will drop the dosage of HCG slowly, also im gonna run Enclo 25mg daily for 50 days which i think is enough ( i will still make sure with blood work )


thanks for all the help

 

[SalvatoreCorvus]

For storage, simply prepare your syringes in advance.

The oil can stay in the syringe for 3-4 days without any problems.

 

[Wizax]

I had my hands on some 20mg Retatrutide, Should i add it? Which part of the cycle ?

 

[dr. Doping]

I had my hands on some 20mg Retatrutide, Should i add it? Which part of the cycle ?

From what I hear, it's really good to add it anywhere, even on a bulk because of it's blood glucose modulation. Just titrate your dosage to where you get the effects you need. From what I've heard, the fat burning effects start at 4mg per week, but don't start at that dose, obviously. I'd suggest starting at 0,1mg per day (pinned everyday) to assess effects and titrate up SLOWLY.

 

[NeverSkipLegDay01]

Make sure you're adding Gamma GT for liver health and Cystatin C for kidney status to your lab work since these 2 are the most reliable liver and kidney health markers, all other standard markers will be skewed due to lifitng and high protein diet.