Expert Answered Anavar and HCG cycle for high BF boys

[breezh]

Hi everyone,

I would like to know if it is possible for someone with a high body fat percentage to run an anabolic steroid cycle with the goal of reducing body fat while maintaining or building muscle mass.

Is it recommended to lower body fat significantly before considering anabolic steroids, or can a cycle be effective even at a high body fat percentage?

What are the potential risks for someone who is significantly overweight?

I'd appreciate hearing about scientific evidence and personal experiences.

Thanks!

 

[breezh]

Hi everyone,

I would like to know whether HCG is necessary during every anabolic steroid cycle.

For example, if someone runs an Oxandrolone (Anavar) cycle, is HCG still necessary to maintain testicular function and prevent testicular atrophy?

Is HCG essential during a cycle, or can someone use certain anabolic steroids without needing it?

Does the need for HCG depend on the compounds used, cycle duration, dosage, or individual hormone levels?

What are the potential risks of not using HCG, particularly regarding natural testosterone production, testicular function and fertility?

I'd appreciate scientific information and personal experiences.

Thanks!

 

[Davy Tenebrae]

Hi everyone,

I would like to know if it is possible for someone with a high body fat percentage to run an anabolic steroid cycle with the goal of reducing body fat while maintaining or building muscle mass.

Is it recommended to lower body fat significantly before considering anabolic steroids, or can a cycle be effective even at a high body fat percentage?

What are the potential risks for someone who is significantly overweight?

I'd appreciate hearing about scientific evidence and personal experiences.

Thanks!

Breezh, anabolic steroids can support muscle retention and hypertrophy even at higher body fat percentages. there's no specific body fat threshold that makes a cycle ineffective, and testosterone can improve body composition, particularly when combined with resistance training and a calorie deficit. the main consideration is that higher body fat can increase aromatization, potentially leading to higher e2 levels and water retention. being significantly overweight also increases the likelihood of blood pressure problems, insulin resistance and unfavorable cholesterol levels. if considering a cycle, i'd prioritize understanding your blood pressure, lipid profile and glucose levels first. what's your current weight, height and estimated body fat percentage?

 

[Davy Tenebrae]

Hi everyone,

I would like to know whether HCG is necessary during every anabolic steroid cycle.

For example, if someone runs an Oxandrolone (Anavar) cycle, is HCG still necessary to maintain testicular function and prevent testicular atrophy?

Is HCG essential during a cycle, or can someone use certain anabolic steroids without needing it?

Does the need for HCG depend on the compounds used, cycle duration, dosage, or individual hormone levels?

What are the potential risks of not using HCG, particularly regarding natural testosterone production, testicular function and fertility?

I'd appreciate scientific information and personal experiences.

Thanks!

Breezh, the need for hCG depends more on hormonal suppression and your fertility goals than on the specific steroid alone. anavar can suppress LH, FSH, and endogenous testosterone production, even without injectable testosterone. hCG acts as an LH analogue, stimulating leydig cells and helping maintain intratesticular testosterone, which is important for testicular function and spermatogenesis. its main benefits are supporting testicular activity and limiting atrophy. hormonal and sperm production recovery can occur after discontinuation, although the timeframe varies widely, but it's a very uncommon issue. is maintaining fertility your main concern, or are you primarily interested in preventing testicular shrinkage?

 

[Sam Bjorn]

Hi everyone,

I would like to know if it is possible for someone with a high body fat percentage to run an anabolic steroid cycle with the goal of reducing body fat while maintaining or building muscle mass.

Is it recommended to lower body fat significantly before considering anabolic steroids, or can a cycle be effective even at a high body fat percentage?

What are the potential risks for someone who is significantly overweight?

I'd appreciate hearing about scientific evidence and personal experiences.

Thanks!

Both approaches can work, but which one to choose and what the consequences might be depend on what you're trying to achieve.

If you send a photo of your current physique and tell us your ultimate goal, age, any chronic health conditions, and the information @Davy Tenebrae asked for, we'll be able to explain the differences between the two approaches in a more personalized way.

By the way, I actually started my first cycle because I was already carrying too much body fat, and if I had continued trying to build muscle naturally, I would've turned into a pig. My goal back then was strength, so I had to eat a lot. But I was no longer happy with how I looked at all. And in my case, it worked.

But in many cases, I actually recommend the opposite — losing body fat first, so that the extra kilos you gain during a cycle don't turn you into a hippo.

 

[Sam Bjorn]

Hi everyone,

I would like to know whether HCG is necessary during every anabolic steroid cycle.

For example, if someone runs an Oxandrolone (Anavar) cycle, is HCG still necessary to maintain testicular function and prevent testicular atrophy?

Is HCG essential during a cycle, or can someone use certain anabolic steroids without needing it?

Does the need for HCG depend on the compounds used, cycle duration, dosage, or individual hormone levels?

What are the potential risks of not using HCG, particularly regarding natural testosterone production, testicular function and fertility?

I'd appreciate scientific information and personal experiences.

Thanks!

Hi mate

To help you better understand the answer to this question, I'll give you an example.

You buy a car and you know that some parts are faulty. You can still drive it, but the wear and tear will be greater. You can take it to a repair shop, pay to fix everything, and save yourself from potential problems in the future (like getting stranded somewhere outside the city and then spending a fortune on a tow truck). Plus, you'll extend the car's lifespan.

But if you're renting a car for just one month, you don't necessarily need to spend your own money fixing it, especially since it's not even yours. Makes sense?

Now ask yourself — how long do you want to keep driving this "car"? That's the real question when deciding whether you need to fix it or not.

In short, HCG helps reduce the risk of infertility. It doesn't eliminate the risk completely, but it reduces it. How effective is it, and at what dosages can you safely skip it? We don't have scientific data that answers these questions. But the general assumption is that it's better to use it. I didn't come up with this idea — it's based on the practical experience of thousands of people.

As for running an oxandrolone-only cycle without testosterone — to be honest, that's about as bad as it gets.

I see you've created another thread. I'd recommend simply explaining what you want to achieve there, and we can help you figure out a suitable cycle and explain everything step by step, including each compound and HCG. Right now, it feels like you're trying to put together the whole picture from scattered puzzle pieces.

 

[breezh]

When I say my body fat is 39%, I mean that I have gained 30 kg (around 66 lbs) in just one year after starting antidepressants. I'm wondering how this significant weight gain may have affected my testosterone levels and hormonal balance.I think it's best to avoid looking like a hippopotamus.

 

[Davy Tenebrae]

When I say my body fat is 39%, I mean that I have gained 30 kg (around 66 lbs) in just one year after starting antidepressants. I'm wondering how this significant weight gain may have affected my testosterone levels and hormonal balance.I think it's best to avoid looking like a hippopotamus.

Gaining 30 kg after starting anti depressants is a significant change, and depression medications contribute to weight gain by influencing appetite and metabolism. at 39% body fat, your testosterone might be lower, but weight loss can improve hormonal balance, particularly testosterone levels and insulin sensitivity. i'd focus on a moderate calorie deficit, high protein intake and strength training to preserve or even build muscle. semaglutide or tirzepatide could also be worth evaluating for appetite control and weight management. which antidepressant were you taking?

 

[Sam Bjorn]

When I say my body fat is 39%, I mean that I have gained 30 kg (around 66 lbs) in just one year after starting antidepressants. I'm wondering how this significant weight gain may have affected my testosterone levels and hormonal balance.I think it's best to avoid looking like a hippopotamus.

Which antidepressants were you taking? I assume one of them was something for sleep, like mirtazapine or quetiapine. But that's a lot of weight to gain, and I don't think the medications are the cause. It's just that the medications probably increased your appetite, and you were raiding your fridge like crazy in the evenings before bed If I were you, I'd consider using GLP-1 medications first rather than steroids.

 

[breezh]

I need trt or PCT ( enclomiphene..) ?

 

[SalvatoreCorvus]

I need trt or PCT ( enclomiphene..) ?

Salut.

Je répond juste par rapport à ça, le reste des questions lié au sujet du cycle étant autre chose (tu devrais ouvrir un nouveau post pour cela d'ailleurs, en lien avec ta testo basse et les chose à faire les progrès etc, ou si tu souhaites un modérateur peut le faire, splitter le sujet)

Sans vouloir paraître méchant, n'y l'un ni l'autre.

Lh et fsh sont correctent donc le signal de production de testostérone est bon. Il est cependant bas avec des œstrogènes haut par rapport à celui là.

Le vrai problème est donc ton surpoids actuel.
Beaucoup de chose s'arrangeront une fois ce problème reglé. Ça reste quand même un facteur de surcharge cardiaque et tout ce qui s'en suis.

Une trt est une solution à vie de dernier recours. Pas de premier instance.

Une pct sert à stimuler le signal de production (LH) en attendant que celui soit de nouveau naturel. Tu n'es pas dans ce cas là ni dans ce besoin.

 

[Sam Bjorn]

I need trt or PCT ( enclomiphene..) ?

Have you used steroids recently?