Expert Answered Igf1lr3

[Pipikuk]

Hello! I would like to start igf1lr3, what should i be aware of or what do i be careful about? Also, i take cjc+ipa right now, so is it a problem to take igf1lr3 right after the cjc+ipa? I am 18yo and i want to build more muscle. I would be really glad for tips and advices on cycle, dosage and anything. Thank you!!

 

[Sam Bjorn]

Hi,

To simply answer your question — using IGF-1 doesn’t directly conflict with the growth hormone secretagogues you’re already taking. On the other hand, adding IGF-1 may increase some of the risks associated with your overall IGF-1 level, which is already elevated from CJC + IPA.

Are you taking anything else besides this? How long have you been using growth hormone secretagogues, and what results have you gotten from them?

I’d look at your situation more broadly and try to help. Overall, I’m not sure that you actually need to add IGF-1.

 

[Pipikuk]

Hi,

To simply answer your question — using IGF-1 doesn’t directly conflict with the growth hormone secretagogues you’re already taking. On the other hand, adding IGF-1 may increase some of the risks associated with your overall IGF-1 level, which is already elevated from CJC + IPA.

Are you taking anything else besides this? How long have you been using growth hormone secretagogues, and what results have you gotten from them?

I’d look at your situation more broadly and try to help. Overall, I’m not sure that you actually need to add IGF-1.

Ive been taking cjc+ipa for about a month now but a few months before i used it for 12 weeks. I dont use any other compounds for muscles, only peptides for skin. I wanted to try igf1lr3, because i heard its the best peptide for muscle growth.

 

[Sam Bjorn]

Let’s start by looking at your two previous CJC + IPA cycles. You used them for 12 weeks — how would you rate the results? Did they meet your expectations or not?

What results were you hoping to achieve when you started using them again?

Did you test your IGF-1 level before starting the growth hormone secretagogues and while using them, to see how much your level increased?

Before thinking about adding something new, I’d first evaluate what you’re already using.

 

[Pipikuk]

Let’s start by looking at your two previous CJC + IPA cycles. You used them for 12 weeks — how would you rate the results? Did they meet your expectations or not?

What results were you hoping to achieve when you started using them again?

Did you test your IGF-1 level before starting the growth hormone secretagogues and while using them, to see how much your level increased?

Before thinking about adding something new, I’d first evaluate what you’re already using.

No, i havent. I definitely saw results on the first cjc+ipa cycle, but now, i dont really see much anymore. There is a chance that i grew a tolerance to it.

 

[Sam Bjorn]

How long have you been training overall? What result do you want to achieve, and how would you rate your progress since your very first day of training? Do you have any metrics, like your body weight or the weights you lift?

It would be easier to recommend something if you sent a photo of your current physique.

 

[Pipikuk]

How long have you been training overall? What result do you want to achieve, and how would you rate your progress since your very first day of training? Do you have any metrics, like your body weight or the weights you lift?

It would be easier to recommend something if you sent a photo of your current physique.

I workout for about 3 years right now, but currently it feel like my progress is slowing down, even tho im trying my best to do everything right. I weigh 73kg and im 167cm tall. I want to become bigger and gain more muscle mass.

 

[Sam Bjorn]

You’re in great shape and you’ve made excellent progress. And the fact that your progress is slowing down is completely normal — that’s how it should be. The first 6 months usually bring the most noticeable growth, then it gradually slows down, and every additional kilogram of muscle takes more effort. But what’s important in your case is that you respond well to training. For a guy your age, you look great.

If I were in your place, I wouldn’t be thinking about what compounds to add. I’d look at how to change your training routine so you can keep progressing as effectively as possible. It might sound basic, but that’s the path to progress.

If you tell us how you train, we can give you some useful recommendations.

 

[Pipikuk]

You’re in great shape and you’ve made excellent progress. And the fact that your progress is slowing down is completely normal — that’s how it should be. The first 6 months usually bring the most noticeable growth, then it gradually slows down, and every additional kilogram of muscle takes more effort. But what’s important in your case is that you respond well to training. For a guy your age, you look great.

If I were in your place, I wouldn’t be thinking about what compounds to add. I’d look at how to change your training routine so you can keep progressing as effectively as possible. It might sound basic, but that’s the path to progress.

If you tell us how you train, we can give you some useful recommendations.

I train 4 times a week and i do upper/lower split. I try my best to do progressive overload and im doing 3x8-12 reps. Im trying my best to recover as much as possible and im on a bulk. Also, thank you for your compliment also, i didnt want to add a compound, i wanted to try igf1lr3 instead of cjc+ipa.

 

[Sam Bjorn]

At this point, your recovery capacity should be at a high level, and there’s simply no need to use compounds that increase IGF-1 in one way or another. Accordingly, if your body doesn’t need it, you won’t get any additional benefits from it. I wouldn’t recommend adding or using anything at all right now. A much more professional approach would be to dive deeper into the training process and learn how different details affect your body.

You know how you can fairly easily tell a truly experienced athlete, whether amateur or professional, from a beginner? And I don’t mean someone who has only been going to the gym for a couple of months. I mean someone who is a beginner by nature. They can go to the gym for years and still behave like a beginner. The thing is, a beginner doesn’t go into the details, and because of that, everything they do immediately shows it.

What I would advise you to do is stop being a beginner and understand the aspects that matter most at this stage and can give you the biggest return — namely, training. This will give you a huge foundation for understanding how to develop your body.

Supplements and PEDs aren’t what should create progress. They’re there to help progress when your limits have been reached. And if you haven’t reached your limits, it only means one thing — you don’t know yourself and what you’re doing well enough yet.

Do you understand what I mean? Three sets of 8–12 reps sounds too superficial. There should be much more depth behind all of this.

You asked what you should take and how, but I would look at things more broadly. Why? Because at this stage, it really doesn’t matter whether you use IGF-1, something else, or nothing at all.

 

[Pipikuk]

At this point, your recovery capacity should be at a high level, and there’s simply no need to use compounds that increase IGF-1 in one way or another. Accordingly, if your body doesn’t need it, you won’t get any additional benefits from it. I wouldn’t recommend adding or using anything at all right now. A much more professional approach would be to dive deeper into the training process and learn how different details affect your body.

You know how you can fairly easily tell a truly experienced athlete, whether amateur or professional, from a beginner? And I don’t mean someone who has only been going to the gym for a couple of months. I mean someone who is a beginner by nature. They can go to the gym for years and still behave like a beginner. The thing is, a beginner doesn’t go into the details, and because of that, everything they do immediately shows it.

What I would advise you to do is stop being a beginner and understand the aspects that matter most at this stage and can give you the biggest return — namely, training. This will give you a huge foundation for understanding how to develop your body.

Supplements and PEDs aren’t what should create progress. They’re there to help progress when your limits have been reached. And if you haven’t reached your limits, it only means one thing — you don’t know yourself and what you’re doing well enough yet.

Do you understand what I mean? Three sets of 8–12 reps sounds too superficial. There should be much more depth behind all of this.

You asked what you should take and how, but I would look at things more broadly. Why? Because at this stage, it really doesn’t matter whether you use IGF-1, something else, or nothing at all.

I see. Thank you for your help. What do you think i should focus on right now or what should i do to improve my progress?