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[NZboy]

Hi everyone, good morning!

I’ve been training for a long time and would like to take my physique to the next level. I’m considering a cycle lasting no more than 12 weeks, but injections wouldn’t be an option for me.

I currently weigh 84 kg and I’m 174 cm tall. My plan is to cut down to 75 kg first to lower my body fat, then start a bulking phase with a daily calorie surplus of around 500–600 kcal until I reach 86–88 kg. After that, I’d like to cut back down to 83–84 kg while retaining a noticeable amount of additional muscle compared with where I started.

Given these goals and the fact that I can’t use injectables, what would you recommend for a cycle lasting a maximum of 12 weeks?

Thanks, everyone!

 

[Sam Bjorn]

Hi and welcome!

Your overall weight plan looks quite reasonable. This will be your first cycle, right? And are you planning to cut down to 75 kg during the cycle or before starting it? I would only recommend injectable steroids for a cycle, no orals. Could you explain why you can't use injections?

And to get a better picture, I need a bit more information. My final recommendations will depend on this:

1. Your age
2. How long you've been training
3. Any chronic health conditions
4. A photo of your current physique

 

[Davy Tenebrae]

Hi everyone, good morning!

I’ve been training for a long time and would like to take my physique to the next level. I’m considering a cycle lasting no more than 12 weeks, but injections wouldn’t be an option for me.

I currently weigh 84 kg and I’m 174 cm tall. My plan is to cut down to 75 kg first to lower my body fat, then start a bulking phase with a daily calorie surplus of around 500–600 kcal until I reach 86–88 kg. After that, I’d like to cut back down to 83–84 kg while retaining a noticeable amount of additional muscle compared with where I started.

Given these goals and the fact that I can’t use injectables, what would you recommend for a cycle lasting a maximum of 12 weeks?

Thanks, everyone!

Mate, i'd first complete your cut to 75kg then focus on a lean bulk rather than pushing for 88kg. a 300 calorie surplus with approximately 160g of protein daily would be a great starting point. for an oral-only approach, the two compounds i'd compare are anavar and turinabol. both have mild anabolic potential, but their effects on liver function, cholesterol and natural test production make a continuous 12-week oral cycle difficult to justify especially without a test base. i also wouldn't expect 12kg of mostly new muscle within that time, i'd focus on strength progression and quality weight gain.