Massing phase 3rd cycle trying to hit 90kg

[Zesty571]

1. Starting Stats

• Age : 35
• Starting weight : 83kg
• Height : 181cm
• Gain phase

2. PEDs Protocol

• Total duration : 16-20 weeks

Weeks 1-6

• Test cyp 300mg/week
• Eq 150mg/week
• Hgh 3iu/day

Weeks 7-16 (bloods on week 6 to asses)
If everything looks good will escalate peds

• Test cyp 500mg/week
• Eq 250mg/week
• Npp 150mg/week
• Hgh 3-5iu/day

3. Training & Nutrition

• Upper/ lower split training 4 days/ weeks with fasted cardio on off days

• I will implement carb cycling with high, medium and low days
• High days - 620c, 90f, 201p
• Medium days - 510c, 80f, 201p
• Low days - 260c, 110f, 201p

• Supplements include - vit d, vit e, omega3, magnesium, dim, Tudca, citrus bergamot, taurine

4. Progress & Notes
(Will update as cycle progresses)

 

[SalvatoreCorvus]

Hi.

Solid and basic plan. That's good

A few personal comments.

I'm not a fan increasing the dose over the cycle for no reasons. Specially if you're doing something who can move you're œstrogen levels (even if "ratio" are the same. Body is not a math machine. 200test:100eq give not the same as 800test:400eq for example)

And even more so with long esters like EQ.
Personally, I think it's best if you choose your desired testosterone and EQ dosage from the start, do you bloodwork and adjust it IF needed.
But don't touch it if everything is going well. Otherwise you need to spend 4-6 more week to do another bloodwork for e2. And by the way, the extra testosterone could increase your e2s BEFORE EQ has an effect, so it's not a good way.

Then, if you wish, add NPP for the overall anabolic load.

Hope you understand my thoughts on that points.

Keep it up and updated along your circle

 

[Zesty571]

Hi.

Solid and basic plan. That's good

A few personal comments.

I'm not a fan increasing the dose over the cycle for no reasons. Specially if you're doing something who can move you're œstrogen levels (even if "ratio" are the same. Body is not a math machine. 200test:100eq give not the same as 800test:400eq for example)

And even more so with long esters like EQ.
Personally, I think it's best if you choose your desired testosterone and EQ dosage from the start, do you bloodwork and adjust it IF needed.
But don't touch it if everything is going well. Otherwise you need to spend 4-6 more week to do another bloodwork for e2. And by the way, the extra testosterone could increase your e2s BEFORE EQ has an effect, so it's not a good way.

Then, if you wish, add NPP for the overall anabolic load.

Hope you understand my thoughts on that points.

Keep it up and updated along your circle

Yes I get where your coming from.

My thinking was to Only increase peds as progress stalls so I have another lever to pull but what you say makes perfect sense