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Currently planning an offseason cycle and trying to decide if adding EQ is actually worth the extra cost.

Base cycle:
  • Test E: 500mg/week
  • Deca: 500mg/week
  • GH: 6 IU/day
  • Insulin: 10 IU/day
Option 1:
Just run the above stack for 20Wks

Option 2:
Add 400mg EQ on top.

Main goal is maximum lean size and fullness while keeping health markers somewhat manageable. I know GH + insulin are already doing a lot of the anabolic work, so I’m wondering whether EQ at 400mg would make a noticeable difference in actual muscle gain or mostly just improve appetite, vascularity, and look.

For people who have run similar setups:
  • Was EQ worth it? along with DECA
  • Did it noticeably improve growth?
  • If you had to save money somewhere, would EQ be the first thing to drop?
I have done Test+EQ+Tren cycle where only test and tren did the heavy lifting EQ was only good for the apetite increase and vascularity but I am thinking for offseason will EQ be helpful? or I can skip it for my cuurent stack and reduce the androgen load. PS I did blood multiple time during the cycle everything was okay I handle EQ very well.

Would appreciate real-world experiences rather than theory.
 
SayanExe said:
Currently planning an offseason cycle and trying to decide if adding EQ is actually worth the extra cost.

Base cycle:
  • Test E: 500mg/week
  • Deca: 500mg/week
  • GH: 6 IU/day
  • Insulin: 10 IU/day
Option 1:
Just run the above stack for 20Wks

Option 2:
Add 400mg EQ on top.

Main goal is maximum lean size and fullness while keeping health markers somewhat manageable. I know GH + insulin are already doing a lot of the anabolic work, so I’m wondering whether EQ at 400mg would make a noticeable difference in actual muscle gain or mostly just improve appetite, vascularity, and look.

For people who have run similar setups:
  • Was EQ worth it? along with DECA
  • Did it noticeably improve growth?
  • If you had to save money somewhere, would EQ be the first thing to drop?
I have done Test+EQ+Tren cycle where only test and tren did the heavy lifting EQ was only good for the apetite increase and vascularity but I am thinking for offseason will EQ be helpful? or I can skip it for my cuurent stack and reduce the androgen load. PS I did blood multiple time during the cycle everything was okay I handle EQ very well.

Would appreciate real-world experiences rather than theory.
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The EQ won't add as much as you Potentiate the sides. The Nandrolon will mainly drive the mass gaining.
If you want to gain the looks you could do primo, or even drosta to work against the bloating effect from the nand.
 
MVXIMUS said:
How much primo/drosta would be enough to help fight the bloating?
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Since we're not Looksmaxing like on a cut i would with 300-400 primo or 200-300 drosta.

For orientation I have a bulk stack exactly for that compounds:

Mild Growth block 20 Wochen

300mg Test 2 Gaben Woche
200mg Deca 1 Gaben Woche
200mg Drosta 2 Gaben Woche

Its a longer running mild stack, you dont need to promotional up the primo/drosta from my stack if you run higher test/nandrolon
 
Broken Atlas said:
Since we're not Looksmaxing like on a cut i would with 300-400 primo or 200-300 drosta.

For orientation I have a bulk stack exactly for that compounds:

Mild Growth block 20 Wochen

300mg Test 2 Gaben Woche
200mg Deca 1 Gaben Woche
200mg Drosta 2 Gaben Woche

Its a longer running mild stack, you dont need to promotional up the primo/drosta from my stack if you run higher test/nandrolon
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Thank you for your reply but I heard mast is better if someone is already lean single digit body fat level apart form the visual effect it doesnot do anything else
 
SayanExe said:
Thank you for your reply but I heard mast is better if someone is already lean single digit body fat level apart form the visual effect it doesnot do anything else
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Well the EQ as I said doesn't rly build muscle if you already use Deca, so you only have the visual effect from EQ what is more dense and dry looking. Just giving the option you wanna still have that but choose a more logical compound its primo or drosta (more potent.) But you can just rub test and deca for full mass building effects ofc
 
Broken Atlas said:
Well the EQ as I said doesn't rly build muscle if you already use Deca, so you only have the visual effect from EQ what is more dense and dry looking. Just giving the option you wanna still have that but choose a more logical compound its primo or drosta (more potent.) But you can just rub test and deca for full mass building effects ofc
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I have used primo upto 400 and anavar previusly never had hairfall issue. I am a bit skeptical with drosta regarding the hair loss
 
SayanExe said:
I have used primo upto 400 and anavar previusly never had hairfall issue. I am a bit skeptical with drosta regarding the hair loss
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Only if you genetically determined to hairless but if you have good experience with primo I always would recommend rolling with the stuff you know works for you except you're willing to face the potential sides.

Taking AAS is risk management what you fine with facing.
 
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