Small cycle and lipedema

[enaveso]

Hello everyone!

I tell you the case of my wife, she suffers from lipedema, with which she has an abnormal accumulation of fat in the legs that hardly responds to exercise and diet.

She trains with weights regularly, easily moving 7 discs per side on the bascule press and going all the way down. He is also quite strong in the upper body.
He does cardio 3-4 days, 30-45 minutes walking and ingests no more than 1600 calories a day.

He still has a hard time losing weight.
We are currently on 50mg Primobolan weekly, 40mcg clenbuterol and 140 T3-T4 (second time using anabolics) all of Driada.

He is 40 years old, 5'2" and currently weighs about 72kg.

Any effective advice?

 

[SalvatoreCorvus]

Hi. I'm going to tag someone more qualified than me for women.

@BellaMasculine

BUT. It seems completely crazy and stupid to me for a woman to use primo and thyroid hormones just to lose weight. It's extremely dangerous. Especially in the context of an illness.

Has she been diagnosed by a doctor for her lipodema?
Honestly, if that's the case, for her health maybe one good thing to do is surgery.

I wish your wife all the courage in the world.

 

[enaveso]

Hi. I'm going to tag someone more qualified than me for women.

@BellaMasculine

BUT. It seems completely crazy and stupid to me for a woman to use primo and thyroid hormones just to lose weight. It's extremely dangerous. Especially in the context of an illness.

Has she been diagnosed by a doctor for her lipodema?
Honestly, if that's the case, for her health maybe one good thing to do is surgery.

I wish your wife all the courage in the world.

Thanks, we are using thyroid because with diet and cardio we can't get her to lose weight, we are not trying to lose a lot of weight, only about 6-7kg would be enough for her height, we want to see how muscular she looks with a lower fat percentage. We are just going to keep it up 6-7 weeks to see if her body responds.

Yes she is diagnosed, although it is not very serious, she is self-conscious and the surgery is dangerous and the recovery quite painful.

 

[SalvatoreCorvus]

Bella might be able to give you some more insightful advice. I'm not an expert on women and weight loss. She still has my full support.

I also hope she takes the time to get blood work done. Keeping track on health, especially when trying to lose weight, can be hard on hormones as a woman.

 

[BellaMasculine]

I totally agree with @SalvatoreCorvus

First: Taking clen and thyroid hormones can be very dangerous and harmful.
Esp. taking thyroid hormones without really needing them can cause damage to your hormones and thyroids, in worst case you must take them for your lifetime because you fucked your thyroids completely up.
also primo, why?

The lipodema got diagnosted and its not that bad, so you dont even need any medication just a diet, time and patience.

sooo...
When did she start the diet and how?
What are her blood levels?
What was the advice of the doc?
how does her workout look like?
which supplements is she taking?
Dont do too much exercise also resting is important

...

 

[enaveso]

Lipedema does not respond to diet or exercise.

I am surprised that in a forum like this, where people talk freely about PEDs and other substances and encourage users to share their cycles, gains, etc., When I write to ask for advice and to share my wife's cycle (her goal is to lose fat without sacrificing muscle mass, with the help of primo, clen, and thyroid), we are practically told that we are doing something crazy, when all the users of this forum use anabolic steroids and other substances. Is this because she is a woman?

 

[SalvatoreCorvus]

It is precisely because we use prohibited and dangerous substances that we want to reduce the risks that people have of abusive consumption.

90% of people make crazy choices and things. They don't use steroids to help them but use drugs to make everything do (I'm not necessarily talking about you, it's still a big generality)

The fhe fact is that yes, she is a woman and that the use of steroids can be much more dangerous and problématique for health in female users.

We want people to be enhanced but above all healthy, which does not ruin their existence and their longevity.
Helping without putting all people in danger.

 

[Baugaros]

Hi,

I don't know why your wife uses AAS, and I don't know if she's looking for a muscular physique or just to improve her appearance and reduce localized fat volume, but I don't see how one thing has to do with the other...

In my opinion, T3/T4/TRIACANA are overrated, and there's also a lot of fear about using them, but the thyroid is much more recoverable than they think. As long as you don't already have a predisposition to hypothyroidism, it recovers quickly and well... But they are not really effective compared to the risks and negative effects; it makes my heart race, hot flashes, heat... It does help, but you won't lose much weight. Same diet/training and AAS VS with or without T3/T4, the difference is minimal if you're not already talking about significantly cutting BF (to drop below 7/8%). Otherwise, you won't even see the difference in the mirror... It's more for those pre-competition touch-ups.

This is coming from someone who even used up to 700 of T4 and even dinitrophenol DNP, this was very risky, but it worked. And I did it to make weight before the fights when I was over the limit (I competed for several years in K1 and VALETUDO, you could earn a lot of money and it was worth the risk).

But if what you're looking for is weight and size loss... I now use Semaglutide, Retatrutide, Tirzepatide, Cagrilintide... They are peptides that act thru pathways like GLP-1, GIP, Glucagon... And although they are not specified for LIPEDEMA... There are sources that say it can improve it, and in the worst case, you will definitely lose weight. Depending on what you're looking for, you use one or the other.

To satisfy your hunger without eating... SEMA or CARGLI.... Or to take away a bit of hunger and increase satiety with small meals that allow you to gain muscle mass while losing weight, then TIRZE which slows gastric emptying, if you also want to go for the triple route, then RETA, which also works very well on visceral fat....

Learn about these peptides in case they can help you achieve your goals.

But I'm afraid this is like when men retain fat in their chest (PseudoGynecomastia), that without Liposuction... Or you stay at a 6/8% BF, or it doesn't go away completely...

Regards

 

[enaveso]

Hi,

I don't know why your wife uses AAS, and I don't know if she's looking for a muscular physique or just to improve her appearance and reduce localized fat volume, but I don't see how one thing has to do with the other...

In my opinion, T3/T4/TRIACANA are overrated, and there's also a lot of fear about using them, but the thyroid is much more recoverable than they think. As long as you don't already have a predisposition to hypothyroidism, it recovers quickly and well... But they are not really effective compared to the risks and negative effects; it makes my heart race, hot flashes, heat... It does help, but you won't lose much weight. Same diet/training and AAS VS with or without T3/T4, the difference is minimal if you're not already talking about significantly cutting BF (to drop below 7/8%). Otherwise, you won't even see the difference in the mirror... It's more for those pre-competition touch-ups.

This is coming from someone who even used up to 700 of T4 and even dinitrophenol DNP, this was very risky, but it worked. And I did it to make weight before the fights when I was over the limit (I competed for several years in K1 and VALETUDO, you could earn a lot of money and it was worth the risk).

But if what you're looking for is weight and size loss... I now use Semaglutide, Retatrutide, Tirzepatide, Cagrilintide... They are peptides that act thru pathways like GLP-1, GIP, Glucagon... And although they are not specified for LIPEDEMA... There are sources that say it can improve it, and in the worst case, you will definitely lose weight. Depending on what you're looking for, you use one or the other.

To satisfy your hunger without eating... SEMA or CARGLI.... Or to take away a bit of hunger and increase satiety with small meals that allow you to gain muscle mass while losing weight, then TIRZE which slows gastric emptying, if you also want to go for the triple route, then RETA, which also works very well on visceral fat....

Learn about these peptides in case they can help you achieve your goals.

But I'm afraid this is like when men retain fat in their chest (PseudoGynecomastia), that without Liposuction... Or you stay at a 6/8% BF, or it doesn't go away completely...

Regards

We have been trying semaglutide for several months and although it does reduce appetite, my girlfriend does not tolerate it well and feels nauseous all day long and vomits at least 4-5 times a week, which makes the treatment torture. I don't know if the ‘new’ ones that have come out will be less aggressive on the stomach...

 

[SalvatoreCorvus]

We have been trying semaglutide for several months and although it does reduce appetite, my girlfriend does not tolerate it well and feels nauseous all day long and vomits at least 4-5 times a week, which makes the treatment torture. I don't know if the ‘new’ ones that have come out will be less aggressive on the stomach...

There is retatrutide which is less hard for the stomach.
Or if it's just a problem of hunger, appetite... It's a mental learning process rather than a solution in a product.

However, it seems to me that Carligrintide acts on the feeling of hunger rather than on the time of digestion / gastric emptying

 

[Baugaros]

We have been trying semaglutide for several months and although it does reduce appetite, my girlfriend does not tolerate it well and feels nauseous all day long and vomits at least 4-5 times a week, which makes the treatment torture. I don't know if the ‘new’ ones that have come out will be less aggressive on the stomach...

Retra is undoubtedly less aggressive in terms of unwanted effects, acting thru three pathways instead of focusing on just one like Sema, which focuses on GLP-1...

But every person is a world, you'll have to try....