Expert Answered Most powerful cycle ever

[Ciaonee]

My goal is to become open I am about 1.80m tall, weigh 80kg with 5% body fat, and my blood tests are perfect. I want to gain mass very quickly, as if I were preparing for Mr. Olympia. Currently, I am using dosages that allow me to safeguard my health, rating it 10 out of 10. To gain mass faster, I am willing to lower my health safeguard rating to 9/8 out of 10. I am willing to take a small risk to achieve my goal sooner, but this is something I cannot do alone. I need to know:
- List of products
- Week-by-week dosages
- Medications and supplements to protect me as much as possible
- How many carbohydrates, proteins, and fats to eat every day

 

[SalvatoreCorvus]

Hi there. This is a question with a difficult answer.

Simply because there is no universal answer to this question.
And no way to short cut. Open bodybuilders become open bodybuilders after years and years of repeating the same things. Not just by choosing a ped's protocol that allows them to go fast.

Genetics comes into play, the ability to do only that, health which is a random variable and also genetic makes this lifestyle of open bodybuilder very difficult for almost no reward (and it's mostly not a 8/10 about health... Mostly people flirting with the 5/10 between the cardiac risks sleep apnea, injuries, shortening of their lives, discomfort on a daily basis, social and emotional isolation etc... Physically and mentally it's never an 8/10).

Everything must be personalized week after week, month after month, year after year. Depending on the results obtained with what is put in place. It's a coach's job, I suggest you go for that and be followed by someone competent. Because here it's impossible to give everything in an answer that will be efficient.

 

[Sam Bjorn]

My goal is to become open I am about 1.80m tall, weigh 80kg with 5% body fat, and my blood tests are perfect. I want to gain mass very quickly, as if I were preparing for Mr. Olympia. Currently, I am using dosages that allow me to safeguard my health, rating it 10 out of 10. To gain mass faster, I am willing to lower my health safeguard rating to 9/8 out of 10. I am willing to take a small risk to achieve my goal sooner, but this is something I cannot do alone. I need to know:
- List of products
- Week-by-week dosages
- Medications and supplements to protect me as much as possible
- How many carbohydrates, proteins, and fats to eat every day

Am I understanding correctly that you're already a competitive bodybuilder and your goal is to move into the Open category?

If that's the case, of course we won't be able to map out one clear path, but I think we can offer some useful advice to help you put more pieces of the puzzle together and get closer to your goal.

If you're interested, I'd first like to get a better understanding of your current situation. Please tell me a bit more about yourself:

1. Age
2. Which compounds and dosages are you currently using?
3. How long have you been using steroids?
4. Your previous experience — compounds, dosages, and cycle durations
5. Do you do PCT, or do you stay on Сruise?
6. Do you get blood tests done? If so, what are your latest results?
7. What's your blood pressure?
8. Please send a photo of your current physique.
9. How much protein and other macronutrients are you currently consuming per day?
10. Do you have any chronic health conditions?

 

[Ciaonee]

Hi there. This is a question with a difficult answer.

Simply because there is no universal answer to this question.
And no way to short cut. Open bodybuilders become open bodybuilders after years and years of repeating the same things. Not just by choosing a ped's protocol that allows them to go fast.

Genetics comes into play, the ability to do only that, health which is a random variable and also genetic makes this lifestyle of open bodybuilder very difficult for almost no reward (and it's mostly not a 8/10 about health... Mostly people flirting with the 5/10 between the cardiac risks sleep apnea, injuries, shortening of their lives, discomfort on a daily basis, social and emotional isolation etc... Physically and mentally it's never an 8/10).

Everything must be personalized week after week, month after month, year after year. Depending on the results obtained with what is put in place. It's a coach's job, I suggest you go for that and be followed by someone competent. Because here it's impossible to give everything in an answer that will be efficient.

Si lo so, mi rendo conto che se voglio il massimo il risultato migliore mi serve aiuto di qualcuno, sei tu che puoi aiutarmi?

 

[SalvatoreCorvus]

Si lo so, mi rendo conto che se voglio il massimo il risultato migliore mi serve aiuto di qualcuno, sei tu che puoi aiutarmi?

Absolutely not.

Going for open bodybuilder would be to gain at least 30 to 40kg of muscle in you're case.

Elite genetic can manage to put maybe 5 to 10kg per year before reaching a physiological plateau. So for you who are not an elite genetic it may take maybe 7 to 10 years of constant practice to start maybe to look like a freak bodybuilder. I can't help you like this for years.

Go get a coach, really.
Because for that amount of steroid already used the results do not follow. Something is wrong.

 

[Ciaonee]

I didn't explain myself, I said I want to become open because it's my dream, you reacted as if I had said that I want to become one in a year, obviously I know this is impossible I'm aware that it will take me years to reach my goal, I'm already followed by a competent person, who will now tell me the cycle I have to do. I don't want to be followed by you for 10 years, I want to know the most powerful cycle that you would recommend to a guy who wants to start doing the races (races that obviously won't be open for the moment since I need years) and I want to try this year both the program you recommend and the one he tells me to do. I have to make a wholesale order, and I have to put in the list of cise to take both the things of the program that tells me to do my pt and the things that instead you tell me to take you. I repeat my personal trainer has been very knowledgable for many years but since nowadays there are also new substances among peptides, hearing another bell is very comfortable for me

 

[SalvatoreCorvus]

Let's be honest.

You've already taken 2.7g of steroid with 700mg of trenbolone and you haven't grown like crazy.

There is nothing to recommend beyond that which will be "most powerful".

We are here to advise people by helping them achieve their goals. Not give them an impersonal shopping list that will cost them their health.
And even if you forget about health, there's nothing most powerful that allows you to grow quickly if your genetics don't allow it.

And again you have already taken a crazy amount of steroid for a result that does not reflect the dose.