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I am at the Moment around 129kg and 35% Fat
As i was 23 i already had a cycle and it was amazing and my form was looking great.
Over the past 7 years i went from 90kg 13-15% fat to 133kg.

I´m running atm :

Retatruide 4mg/week

Test E 350mg/week

and I´m planning to add 200mg/week Primo and 4-6Ui hgh.

Diet :
1800 kcal/day
190 gr Protein target per day

Do you have any advice for me or dose recommendations ?
 
Tomek_Anabolek said:
I am at the Moment around 129kg and 35% Fat
As i was 23 i already had a cycle and it was amazing and my form was looking great.
Over the past 7 years i went from 90kg 13-15% fat to 133kg.

I´m running atm :

Retatruide 4mg/week

Test E 350mg/week

and I´m planning to add 200mg/week Primo and 4-6Ui hgh.

Diet :
1800 kcal/day
190 gr Protein target per day

Do you have any advice for me or dose recommendations ?
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Hey bro, I wouldn't recommend running that much GH. You gotta remember GH is a counter-regulatory hormone to insulin, so if you're just aiming for stable, moderate IGF-1 levels, 1-2 IU is more than enough.

Just titrate your Reta dose up slowly, add the Primo, keep my GH advice in mind, and make sure you're pairing your protein with fiber... you'll be good to go. And of course, good old low-intensity cardio )
 
Tomek_Anabolek said:
I am at the Moment around 129kg and 35% Fat
As i was 23 i already had a cycle and it was amazing and my form was looking great.
Over the past 7 years i went from 90kg 13-15% fat to 133kg.

I´m running atm :

Retatruide 4mg/week

Test E 350mg/week

and I´m planning to add 200mg/week Primo and 4-6Ui hgh.

Diet :
1800 kcal/day
190 gr Protein target per day

Do you have any advice for me or dose recommendations ?
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Hi Tomek!

Brother, I’d definitely recalculate the cut. At 129 kg and 35% BF, 1,800 kcal is unnecessarily aggressive. You don’t need to starve yourself when you have that much room to lose fat.

I’d structure it more like this:

129 to 115 kg: aim for roughly 0.8–1% bodyweight loss per week. Start around 2,500–2,700 kcal, keep protein around 190–220 g and let Reta control appetite without trying to murder it.

115 to 105 kg: slow it slightly to 0.6–0.8%/week. Only drop another 150–200 kcal if weight genuinely stalls for 2 weeks.

105 kg downward: become even more conservative. At that point preserving muscle, training performance and recovery matters much more than making the scale fall quickly.

I’d also use steps/cardio before repeatedly cutting food. If 2,600 kcal is producing good weekly loss, there is absolutely no reason to eat 2,200 just because you can.

Think months, not weeks. From 129 kg, the winning strategy is a long controlled descent, not 1,800 kcal + huge appetite suppression + more compounds.

Make every calorie reduction earn its place, the quickest you overkill your metabolism, the harder will get to shred.

Shark
 
Thank you very much its also really helpful for me :-)
I´ll go higher in calories and stay at 4mg reta
I need one more advice
At which time should I inject the GH
2 ui before bed or something like 1 after wake up and 1 before bed
 
Tomek_Anabolek said:
Thank you very much its also really helpful for me :-)
I´ll go higher in calories and stay at 4mg reta
I need one more advice
At which time should I inject the GH
2 ui before bed or something like 1 after wake up and 1 before bed
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I would suggest not changing what is working.

If you are doing good, your watery level is good; no carpían, so… stay there 😉

Shark
 
Tomek_Anabolek said:
Thank you very much its also really helpful for me :-)
I´ll go higher in calories and stay at 4mg reta
I need one more advice
At which time should I inject the GH
2 ui before bed or something like 1 after wake up and 1 before bed
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Hey brother, how is this going now?

Give us a quick update on current weight, calories, Reta, training/cardio and how you’re feeling. If you can, throw in some progress pics too. I’m genuinely curious to see what happened once you stopped pushing the deficit so aggressively.

Shark
 
Hey
It’s going pretty well
I’m feeling amazing
E2 in the higher but okay-ish range but hey it’s because I’m fat lol
I’ll do my next bloodwork in about 2 weeks
Last one looked good

Im down to 2mg Reta
Up to 500test and 300 Primo /week
Im down to 125,7kg
7kg loss in fat
6kg gain in muscle
Bodyfat down to 29.7%
Next inbody scan is in about 3 weeks
I will post some progress pictures in the future and of course pictures from where I startet
I will add :
about 300-400npp/week soon (in 2weeks)
1000ui/week hcg from this week
2-3ui hgh beginning or mid December

Thank you very much for your interest in my journey :-)
 
Tomek_Anabolek said:
Hey
It’s going pretty well
I’m feeling amazing
E2 in the higher but okay-ish range but hey it’s because I’m fat lol
I’ll do my next bloodwork in about 2 weeks
Last one looked good

Im down to 2mg Reta
Up to 500test and 300 Primo /week
Im down to 125,7kg
7kg loss in fat
6kg gain in muscle
Bodyfat down to 29.7%
Next inbody scan is in about 3 weeks
I will post some progress pictures in the future and of course pictures from where I startet
I will add :
about 300-400npp/week soon (in 2weeks)
1000ui/week hcg from this week
2-3ui hgh beginning or mid December

Thank you very much for your interest in my journey :-)
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Hi,

Is your main goal to improve your physique, or are you involved in strength sports? And yes — do you already have a list of blood tests, or do you need help putting one together?
 
My main goal is to improve my physique.
Its not my first time using PED´s.
I was once pretty good in shape (2018).
since than i lost track on training etc.
Now i want to come back stronger and better than ever.
You can look me up on Instagram IG: tomek_anabolek
I would really like to get a list of blood values, so i can keep all in sight even better.

And i have to thank you again for your support and help.
You´re really nice to me and very helpful.

Thank You :cool:
 
Thanks, I had a look. You were in good shape, bro. Anyway, we’ll help you get back there and improve it even further.

Regarding bloodwork, I have two lists — one minimal and one more extensive. A lot of people prefer the minimal list of markers to monitor during a cycle simply because blood tests aren’t cheap these days.

If we’re talking about the extended list, I recommend doing it at least once in your life to see what’s going on inside your body. After that, you can monitor the minimal list during the cycle, while also identifying any weak points from the extended bloodwork and trying to correct them.

Which plan do we go with?
 
Well , I would say both.
This way I get a good overview what’s going on and then keep up with the minimal list to stay on track
Or what would you recommend
 
Tomek_Anabolek said:
Well , I would say both.
This way I get a good overview what’s going on and then keep up with the minimal list to stay on track
Or what would you recommend
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Yes, that’s exactly what I would recommend. That’s the idea. Tell me which blood tests you’ve had done recently so we can shorten the list a bit and avoid wasting money.
 
Give me the full list otherwise I would have to look on both sheets and to be honest health is nothing you can put a price tag on so I don’t really care about the extra cost here :)
 
I’m really glad you think that way. When your health runs out, everything else ends too🤜

So here is the list

Complete Blood Count​

  • Complete Blood Count (CBC)

Iron Status​

  • Iron
  • Ferritin
  • Transferrin
  • TSAT — Transferrin Saturation
  • Vitamin B12
  • Folic Acid

Liver and Pancreatic Function​

  • Total Bilirubin
  • ALT
  • AST
  • GGT
  • Alkaline Phosphatase (ALP)
  • Creatine Kinase (CK)

Kidney Function​

  • Urea
  • Creatinine
  • Cystatin C
  • eGFR based on Cystatin C
  • Uric Acid

Proteins​

  • Total Protein
  • Albumin

Glucose Metabolism​

  • Glucose
  • Glycated Hemoglobin (HbA1c)

Electrolytes and Minerals​

  • Sodium
  • Potassium
  • Calcium
  • Magnesium
  • Phosphate
  • Zinc
  • Copper

Lipid Profile and Cardiovascular Risk​

  • HDL Cholesterol
  • LDL Cholesterol
  • ApoB
  • Lipoprotein(a) [Lp(a)]
  • Triglycerides
  • High-Sensitivity C-Reactive Protein (hs-CRP)
  • Homocysteine

Hormones​

  • Prolactin
  • Estradiol

Thyroid Function​

  • TSH
  • Free T3
  • Free T4

Prostate​

  • PSA (Prostate-Specific Antigen)

Vitamins​

  • 25-Hydroxyvitamin D [25(OH)D]

How to Prepare​

A number of blood tests should be performed on an empty stomach. For biochemical tests such as glucose, cholesterol and bilirubin, as well as certain hormonal and iron-related tests, fasting is recommended.

Fasting means that at least 8 hours, and preferably 10–12 hours, should pass between your last meal and blood collection. Juice, tea, coffee and other caloric drinks should also be avoided. You may drink plain water.
  • Avoid alcohol and preferably fatty or unusually heavy meals for 1–2 days before the blood test.
  • Avoid strenuous exercise for 24–48 hours before testing, particularly because exercise can significantly increase CK, AST and some other markers.
  • Do not smoke for at least one hour before blood collection.
  • Sexual abstinence for 24 hours (needed for PSA and prolactin).
 
If any of the values are below or above the normal range, we’ll take that into account and retest them along with the markers that need to be monitored during the cycle, such as hematocrit, the lipid panel, and so on.

When are you planning to get the tests done?
 
due to the Reta I don’t drink alcohol or coffee anyways so that’s not a problem and I’ll always try to not eat atleast 1,5h before sleep
So the fasting shouldn’t be a problem as well
I’ll make an appointment at my doc and post the result when I have them so we can go on
I’ll tell as well the date of the appointment so u don’t have to w8 not knowing when I’ll have the results :)
 
Sam Bjorn said:
I’m really glad you think that way. When your health runs out, everything else ends too🤜

So here is the list

Complete Blood Count​

  • Complete Blood Count (CBC)

Iron Status​

  • Iron
  • Ferritin
  • Transferrin
  • TSAT — Transferrin Saturation
  • Vitamin B12
  • Folic Acid

Liver and Pancreatic Function​

  • Total Bilirubin
  • ALT
  • AST
  • GGT
  • Alkaline Phosphatase (ALP)
  • Creatine Kinase (CK)

Kidney Function​

  • Urea
  • Creatinine
  • Cystatin C
  • eGFR based on Cystatin C
  • Uric Acid

Proteins​

  • Total Protein
  • Albumin

Glucose Metabolism​

  • Glucose
  • Glycated Hemoglobin (HbA1c)

Electrolytes and Minerals​

  • Sodium
  • Potassium
  • Calcium
  • Magnesium
  • Phosphate
  • Zinc
  • Copper

Lipid Profile and Cardiovascular Risk​

  • HDL Cholesterol
  • LDL Cholesterol
  • ApoB
  • Lipoprotein(a) [Lp(a)]
  • Triglycerides
  • High-Sensitivity C-Reactive Protein (hs-CRP)
  • Homocysteine

Hormones​

  • Prolactin
  • Estradiol

Thyroid Function​

  • TSH
  • Free T3
  • Free T4

Prostate​

  • PSA (Prostate-Specific Antigen)

Vitamins​

  • 25-Hydroxyvitamin D [25(OH)D]

How to Prepare​

A number of blood tests should be performed on an empty stomach. For biochemical tests such as glucose, cholesterol and bilirubin, as well as certain hormonal and iron-related tests, fasting is recommended.

Fasting means that at least 8 hours, and preferably 10–12 hours, should pass between your last meal and blood collection. Juice, tea, coffee and other caloric drinks should also be avoided. You may drink plain water.
  • Avoid alcohol and preferably fatty or unusually heavy meals for 1–2 days before the blood test.
  • Avoid strenuous exercise for 24–48 hours before testing, particularly because exercise can significantly increase CK, AST and some other markers.
  • Do not smoke for at least one hour before blood collection.
  • Sexual abstinence for 24 hours (needed for PSA and prolactin).
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Hey, thanks for putting this comprehensive list together!

I noticed that under the hormones section you included prolactin and estradiol, but Progesterone is missing.

Is there a specific reason you left it out?
 
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