Bulking cycle test/deca/hgh : Would love to know your experience on a similar stack 💉💪

[sulk4]

1. Starting Stats & Objectives

Age: 21
Height: 185 cm
Starting Weight: 80.0 kg (~7–8% Body Fat, lean & dry baseline)
Target Weight: 92–95 kg (Capping body fat at a maximum of ~12–14%)

Cycle Goal:
After completing a strict cut and sitting at a dry 80 kg and 7-8%BF, ghrelin is through the roof and insulin sensitivity is at an all-time HIGH.
The goal ---> drive maximal lean mass accumulation while keeping visceral fat storage to an absolute minimum.

Rather than running a traditional "dirty bulk" that ruins metabolic health, i will try a clean bulk with 500 daily kcals surplus.

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2. PEDs Protocol & Strategy

The compounds are :
-test and deca to drive nitrogen retention, protein synthesis, and intracellular joint hydration.
-HGH is integrated to elevate serum IGF-1 levels and induce muscle cell hyperplasia, while low-dose Tirzepatide a metabolic shield. (Keep BG in check, Because high-dose HGH can induce peripheral insulin resistance)

Phase 1: (Weeks 1–12)
Testos: 500 mg/week
Deca : 400 mg/week
HGH: 4 IU/day
Tirzepatide: 2.5 mg/week (for glucose control)

Phase 2: (Weeks 13–20/24)
Test : 750 mg/week
Deca: 500 mg/week
Somatropin HGH: 4 IU/day
Tirzepatide: 2.5 mg/week

Ancillaries & Organ Protection (Full Duration)

Cabergoline: 0.25 mg/week
Telmisartan: 40 mg/day
Arimidex: 0.5 mg EOD
Injectable L-Carnitine: 500 mg/day

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3. Nutrition & Training Framework
Daily surplus of at least 500kcal

Training 7 days a week, no rest days even tho its not optimal, it is what i prefer. Each set taken to failure.
Training on a PPL variant with an added arm day.

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4. Progress Log & Observations (Week 4 Update)

Officially one month into the blast, and the tissue saturation from the long esters is becoming very apparent. Baseline strength on all compound pushes and squats has climbed noticeably, but the biggest shift is in recovery and joint integrity.

Current stats :
Current Weight: 84.1 kg (+4.1 kg from baseline)
Fasting Blood Glucose: 72 mg/dL
Resting Blood Pressure: 118 / 74 mmHg
Current Daily Calories: 3,800 kcal (550g Carbs / 220g Protein / 70g Fat)
Incline bench : from 90x4 to 100x6

 

[Donvitosharkone]

1. Starting Stats & Objectives

Age: 21
Height: 185 cm
Starting Weight: 80.0 kg (~7–8% Body Fat, lean & dry baseline)
Target Weight: 92–95 kg (Capping body fat at a maximum of ~12–14%)

Cycle Goal:
After completing a strict cut and sitting at a dry 80 kg and 7-8%BF, ghrelin is through the roof and insulin sensitivity is at an all-time HIGH.
The goal ---> drive maximal lean mass accumulation while keeping visceral fat storage to an absolute minimum.

Rather than running a traditional "dirty bulk" that ruins metabolic health, i will try a clean bulk with 500 daily kcals surplus.

_________
2. PEDs Protocol & Strategy

The compounds are :
-test and deca to drive nitrogen retention, protein synthesis, and intracellular joint hydration.
-HGH is integrated to elevate serum IGF-1 levels and induce muscle cell hyperplasia, while low-dose Tirzepatide a metabolic shield. (Keep BG in check, Because high-dose HGH can induce peripheral insulin resistance)

Phase 1: (Weeks 1–12)
Testos: 500 mg/week
Deca : 400 mg/week
HGH: 4 IU/day
Tirzepatide: 2.5 mg/week (for glucose control)

Phase 2: (Weeks 13–20/24)
Test : 750 mg/week
Deca: 500 mg/week
Somatropin HGH: 4 IU/day
Tirzepatide: 2.5 mg/week

Ancillaries & Organ Protection (Full Duration)

Cabergoline: 0.25 mg/week
Telmisartan: 40 mg/day
Arimidex: 0.5 mg EOD
Injectable L-Carnitine: 500 mg/day

___________
3. Nutrition & Training Framework
Daily surplus of at least 500kcal

Training 7 days a week, no rest days even tho its not optimal, it is what i prefer. Each set taken to failure.
Training on a PPL variant with an added arm day.

____________
4. Progress Log & Observations (Week 4 Update)

Officially one month into the blast, and the tissue saturation from the long esters is becoming very apparent. Baseline strength on all compound pushes and squats has climbed noticeably, but the biggest shift is in recovery and joint integrity.

Current stats :
Current Weight: 84.1 kg (+4.1 kg from baseline)
Fasting Blood Glucose: 72 mg/dL
Resting Blood Pressure: 118 / 74 mmHg
Current Daily Calories: 3,800 kcal (550g Carbs / 220g Protein / 70g Fat)
Incline bench : from 90x4 to 100x6

I like your mindset, brother. Starting lean and focusing on a controlled surplus instead of chasing the scale is how quality size is built.

My only advice is this: don’t confuse working harder with growing faster. Seven days a week to failure sounds hardcore, but muscle grows when you recover, not when you prove how tough you are.

Keep that discipline, recover just as hard as you train, and you’ll get much more out of that cycle.

Good luck!

 

[sulk4]

I like your mindset, brother. Starting lean and focusing on a controlled surplus instead of chasing the scale is how quality size is built.

My only advice is this: don’t confuse working harder with growing faster. Seven days a week to failure sounds hardcore, but muscle grows when you recover, not when you prove how tough you are.

Keep that discipline, recover just as hard as you train, and you’ll get much more out of that cycle.

Good luck!

Hey ! Thanks for the response !

I have a question for you : do you have any experience with a similar cycle ? What do your bulking cycles look like ?

This is my first time doing such a "heavy" bulking cycle so i would love to know what to expect in order of strength and mass gain

 

[Donvitosharkone]

Hey ! Thanks for the response !

I have a question for you : do you have any experience with a similar cycle ? What do your bulking cycles look like ?

This is my first time doing such a "heavy" bulking cycle so i would love to know what to expect in order of strength and mass gain

Yes, I have it.

Got to say I am an advanced user, mostly because of the Deca in such a high end.

my body withstand it properly, never have had prolactin issues that should be your main concern along with high BP.

You may also try NPP first, pinning EOD. Will do exactly the same but you will have a quick way out in case problem arises instead of min 25 days on blood serum like Deca.

For the rest, if you previously have done big loads, consider your dietary control as main lane to work with

 

[sulk4]

Yes, I have it.

Got to say I am an advanced user, mostly because of the Deca in such a high end.

my body withstand it properly, never have had prolactin issues that should be your main concern along with high BP.

You may also try NPP first, pinning EOD. Will do exactly the same but you will have a quick way out in case problem arises instead of min 25 days on blood serum like Deca.

For the rest, if you previously have done big loads, consider your dietary control as main lane to work with

Thanks for the feedback and the tip on NPP. The shorter half-life definitely makes more sense for managing potential prolactin or BP spikes, but the price difference is one of the reason i went for deca. I might have to try it tho, thanks!

Regarding the GH side of things, I had a few specific questions:
Have you ever used HGH in your bulking cycles?
If so, did you encounter any issues with blood glucose control while running it on high calories/carbs?
What was your preferred injection protocol and timing during the day?

 

[Davy Tenebrae]

Thanks for the feedback and the tip on NPP. The shorter half-life definitely makes more sense for managing potential prolactin or BP spikes, but the price difference is one of the reason i went for deca. I might have to try it tho, thanks!

Regarding the GH side of things, I had a few specific questions:
Have you ever used HGH in your bulking cycles?
If so, did you encounter any issues with blood glucose control while running it on high calories/carbs?
What was your preferred injection protocol and timing during the day?

Yes, I've used HGH during recomp and lean bulk phases. Personally, blood glucose wasn't an issue because I kept my diet clean and monitored it regularly, but everyone's response is different. It's definitely something worth monitoring if you're running higher GH doses alongside a high-carb diet.

As for timing, I prefer a single injection before bedtime. Some people inject first thing in the morning, while others prefer post-workout or before bed. There isn't a single "best" protocol, so it really comes down to what fits your routine and how your body responds.

Out of curiosity, what GH dose are you planning to run, and what cycle are you planning to pair it with?

 

[sulk4]

Yes, I've used HGH during recomp and lean bulk phases. Personally, blood glucose wasn't an issue because I kept my diet clean and monitored it regularly, but everyone's response is different. It's definitely something worth monitoring if you're running higher GH doses alongside a high-carb diet.

As for timing, I prefer a single injection before bedtime. Some people inject first thing in the morning, while others prefer post-workout or before bed. There isn't a single "best" protocol, so it really comes down to what fits your routine and how your body responds.

Out of curiosity, what GH dose are you planning to run, and what cycle are you planning to pair it with?

Well currently at 2iu and i was thinking of going up to 4iu's. I don't know if its worth it to push it to 6-8iu's. Im running this alongside test and deca, i mainly want to put on size to reach a lean 90kg in about 25-30weeks (is what im hoping for, idk if its unrealistic).

How many iu were you on and how were the results?

 

[Davy Tenebrae]

Well currently at 2iu and i was thinking of going up to 4iu's. I don't know if its worth it to push it to 6-8iu's. Im running this alongside test and deca, i mainly want to put on size to reach a lean 90kg in about 25-30weeks (is what im hoping for, idk if its unrealistic).

How many iu were you on and how were the results?

i was on 3 IU during my recomp, not really got that much muscle gains but i got leaner by the day so that's a signal my insulin sensitivity was sky high

 

[sulk4]

i was on 3 IU during my recomp, not really got that much muscle gains but i got leaner by the day so that's a signal my insulin sensitivity was sky high

Oh yeah okay, and how long did you run it for ?
From the info I gathered on forums, internet and with ai, it seems that for hgh to see some results in new muscle mass, your cycle needs to be on the longer end, at least 6 month of continuous exposition to it

 

[sulk4]

Week 5 Log Update :

Long esters are fully active. Pumps across the 7-day split are getting brutal, joint lubrication from Deca is night & day with zero discomfort, and 2.5mg Tirzepatide is keeping glucose tight. Midsection remains dry with zero visceral spill.

Metrics:
• Weight: 84.9 kg (+0.5 kg W4 / +4.6 kg total)
• BP: 120/75 mmHg
• Daily Nutrition: 3,850 kcal (560C / 225P / 70F)
Strength:
• Incline Bench: 100 kg x 4 (Up from 90x4 baseline)

Observations & Side Effects :

Water / Estrogen: Subcutaneous retention is minimal. Muscle bellies are dense and full round the clock. E2 dialed with 0.5mg Adex EOD.
Prolactin: Zero issues, Caber 0.25mg doing its job.

HGH Sides: Slight morning hand numbness from the 4 IU, fades within 15 minutes of waking up. Sleep depth is solid.

Digestion: Tirzepatide keeps gastric transit predictable. No bloat or sluggishness despite high carb volume.

 

[sulk4]

Training philosophy change : (Low Volume / High Intensity Shift):

Pull Day Update

Switched to an ultra-low volume, true failure setup today to safeguard recovery. Work stress has been heavy this week, causing recovery to lag, so systemic CNS fatigue needed to be managed immediately. Dropped deadlifts entirely—the heavy spinal loading and CNS tax weren't worth it right now.

Workout Breakdown:
• Lat Pulldown (Neutral Grip): 2 sets to absolute failure + partials on final set
• Chest-Supported Row: 2 heavy working sets to failure
• Single-Arm Cable Row: 1 set to failure per side
• Rear Delt Cable Flyes: 2 sets to failure
• Incline DB Curls: 2 sets to failure

Total: 9 working sets.
Back pump and lat fullness were there, even rho not the best without the usual post-session nervous system drain. CNS feels completely intact and energy remained high post-workout. Keeping volume capped at this threshold until work load normalizes.
Feels wierd, this training session seemed kind of empty in comparaison to what i usually do (usually i do 15-20worki g sets to failure)

Next step : I will keep updating each day for the next following week since i will switch to this trianing philosophy for tge next 7 days at least to see if i progress more, recover better etc...