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Hi guys. I would be happy for any advice on Test + Primo Stack.

My current situation: 108kg, 181cm (startet kcal deficit and training at 150kg in april 2025).

I was on TRT with testogel because of non existing testosterone, which brought me to absolute minimum of 2.50-2.90 ng/ml. It was way better than before, but i didnt feel Optimum.
Now, i have startet a cycle begining of Oct with 300mg enanthate/week.
In about 2 weeks, i am going to do my first bloodwork. I feel very good Overall.

Depending on my bloodwork, i would add primobolan to my 300mg test/week. What is the usual ratio test/primo? I know, primo makes more sense with low body fat, but i am Sure that i am going to aromatase, and i would Prefer to get estradiol In range with primo rather then with an AI.
My Bloodpresure is in optimum range.

Also i am on 5mg Reta/week right now. I adjust the dose based on my appetite.

I train very hard, 5 times a week push - pull - legs, i make 10.000+ steps a day and i add cardio into my training.
I eat 2500 kcal, 200g proteins, 70g fats and 260g carbs.
I drink about 3-5 liters water a day.

You can see my Progress and my current Form in the pictures.

Feel free to give your intake, thanks!
 

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my friend 1st of all congrats, if u wanna loose fat , why do not u try retatrutide or tirzepadite (with work work great)......and btw do not worry with primo if u have fat (drostalone work better with less fat) , right now i am on 250 testo e week/100 primo week
 
my friend 1st of all congrats, if u wanna loose fat , why do not u try retatrutide or tirzepadite (with work work great)......and btw do not worry with primo if u have fat (drostalone work better with less fat) , right now i am on 250 testo e week/100 primo week
Thank you bro. Sorry, i forgot to mention i am on 5mg reta/week. I lost 32kg without any ped's, i have started reta at 119kg so i lost another 11kg with reta.
Would you say 2:1 Test/Primo is good for the begining to start?
 
Thank you bro. Sorry, i forgot to mention i am on 5mg reta/week. I lost 32kg without any ped's, i have started reta at 119kg so i lost another 11kg with reta.
Would you say 2:1 Test/Primo is good for the begining to start?
2,5/1 testo primo (250 mg testo/100mg primo )
 
Thank you bro. Sorry, i forgot to mention i am on 5mg reta/week. I lost 32kg without any ped's, i have started reta at 119kg so i lost another 11kg with reta.
Would you say 2:1 Test/Primo is good for the begining to start?
Hi mate…

Welcome and thanks for sharing your plans!

Have you done a blood panel? Before jumping it and based in your current BF, it is 100% useful to know your current free test, estrogen and prolactine.

I would now advice you to beging with 2 compounds, simply because your don’t need them to experiment a serious change.

I would keep your body “reactive” to PEDs (as simpler as possible€, until you are ready to your 1st bulk (so you can explode properly).

I have coached a ton of guys like you and they react quicker and better on a properly planned carb cycling (that will allow you to eat more) and keeping the hardcore once able to see it (with lower BF).

Even if you grow, you will not be able to see it so you will frustrate yourself and will keep increasing… trust me. I know what’s next.

If you need help beyond your plans, we can help, we have a team of experts that can help or even I can assist you if you consider it.

By now, I only suggest… lest cover the basics

Shark
 
Hi mate…

Welcome and thanks for sharing your plans!

Have you done a blood panel? Before jumping it and based in your current BF, it is 100% useful to know your current free test, estrogen and prolactine.

I would now advice you to beging with 2 compounds, simply because your don’t need them to experiment a serious change.

I would keep your body “reactive” to PEDs (as simpler as possible€, until you are ready to your 1st bulk (so you can explode properly).

I have coached a ton of guys like you and they react quicker and better on a properly planned carb cycling (that will allow you to eat more) and keeping the hardcore once able to see it (with lower BF).

Even if you grow, you will not be able to see it so you will frustrate yourself and will keep increasing… trust me. I know what’s next.

If you need help beyond your plans, we can help, we have a team of experts that can help or even I can assist you if you consider it.

By now, I only suggest… lest cover the basics

Shark
Hi bro. My first bloodwork will be done in about 2-3 weeks. Maybe even 4, because i started with 150mg/week in early October. I've been on 300 mg for a week now; before that, I was on 250 mg a week. I didn't want to jump straight from TRT with Testogel to 300 mg of enanthate a week, so I increased the dose.
Depending on the results of this blood test, I was planning to make some changes. But I’d definitely wait for other compounds if that makes more sense.
Which two compounds would you recommend for now?
I have exemestane at home; I just thought it would make more sense to monitor estradiol levels with Primo.
Do you or your team offer coaching, or do you mean via here in the thread?
 
Hi bro. My first bloodwork will be done in about 2-3 weeks. Maybe even 4, because i started with 150mg/week in early October. I've been on 300 mg for a week now; before that, I was on 250 mg a week. I didn't want to jump straight from TRT with Testogel to 300 mg of enanthate a week, so I increased the dose.
Depending on the results of this blood test, I was planning to make some changes. But I’d definitely wait for other compounds if that makes more sense.
Which two compounds would you recommend for now?
I have exemestane at home; I just thought it would make more sense to monitor estradiol levels with Primo.
Do you or your team offer coaching, or do you mean via here in the thread?
Hi… here in the thread (since it might help other users too).

I would not recommend your strategy with primo with or without bloodwork. You cannot control something you don’t see, so without knowing your current estrogen, it simply doesn’t justify any other move.

Your strogens got to be high given your current body composition.

I would suggest keeping as it is until you get your values baselined.

Any compound will recomp you now, just diet and training consistency, and taking care of your resting periods since your limiting factor now is dieting and training fatigue.

All the rest can wait, trust me, it won’t be faster neither better if done blindly

Shark
 
Hi… here in the thread (since it might help other users too).

I would not recommend your strategy with primo with or without bloodwork. You cannot control something you don’t see, so without knowing your current estrogen, it simply doesn’t justify any other move.

Your strogens got to be high given your current body composition.

I would suggest keeping as it is until you get your values baselined.

Any compound will recomp you now, just diet and training consistency, and taking care of your resting periods since your limiting factor now is dieting and training fatigue.

All the rest can wait, trust me, it won’t be faster neither better if done blindly

Shark
Okay, lets go 💪 i will post my bloodwork here once i have them done. Thank you Shark.
 
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