Opinions and suggestions about my cruise and blast planning

[jla90]

Let me start by telling you about my background. The last time I was actively involved in bodybuilding was 7 years ago. I weighed 104.8 kg, my body fat percentage was 7% and my height was 178 cm. The results were bench press (raw) 238 kg, squat 7x10 cm 250 kg, deadlift 10x10 x 240 kg, neck press 5x5x150 kg. I started powerlifting when I was 14 and at 17 my bench weight was 170 kg (naturally). I started bodybuilding in 2012. I am now 44. In 2022, I had an accident and had to retire due to illness. About a month ago, the owner of a local gym asked me to coach the bench press. But I told him that I first need to gain credibility because I haven't done anything physical for 3.5 years. My muscles have atrophied and fat has replaced them, I weigh 113 kg. Now I have been training at home for 3 weeks and my pain has not increased. I got the idea for the 3v cruise and blast method. In 3 years, my child has an important event, and a bodybuilding competition is also a possibility. In addition, my testosterone level is below the permissible limit, but the doctors do not agree to replacement therapy. I have a diagnosis of anabolic steroid abuse, so that's why...
Then I plan that when I am not working, I can train bodybuilding like a pro. I have a training program that a top Finnish bodybuilder made for me, which I plan to use.
I also walk on the treadmill for an hour every morning. I also stretch every day and do active body care
My daily calorie intake is about 6000 and 3–4 liters of water.
I buy all the recommended vitamins, supplements, protective agents and anti-estrogens, etc.

First steroids cycle duration 16 weeks:
Weeks 1-3 Test prop/suspension 50mg eod
1-16 Test ena/cyp 500-750mg
1-8 Npp400mg ta
1-12 Dhb 200mg if the effect is weak then 3-400mg
12-16 Masteron ena 400mg
12-16 Tren ace 200mg
12-16 t4/t3
Test prop/suspension in between if you feel you need it or then halotest

Peptides and other use according to instructions
IGF-1 LR3
PEG-MGF
IPAMORELIN
YK11
CJC-1297
Levocarnitine

After this, cruise for some time when it goes
Test ena/cyp 200-300mg
Regular blood tests, careful nutrition and protective substances, etc. Blood pressure and cholesterol medications available.
I have been using hard Cycls my entire life.
I wonder if steroids give a better response when it has been 7 years since I last used them?

 

[SalvatoreCorvus]

Hello.

For a first cycle after a few years of stopping it is too much product and too much high dosage.

Take it slowly, knowing that you don't need that much. Returning to an old level requires less effort and less dose.

Save this cycle for later when you eventually want to break a plateauSave this cycle for later when you eventually want to break a plateau.

 

[jla90]

I've been thinking about it, and I'm not starting out that fast. I have 6 months to get a credible trainer look. That is, to get rid of the fat and replace it with muscle.

My strength has always really grown, as well as my muscle mass.

I've had a genetic test and other tests and was diagnosed with myotonia, so maybe that's the reason for the abnormal results and rapid muscle growth.

DHB is a substance that I've never tested, and I've researched it and its results a lot. What do you think about this:
1-2 test propi/suspension 50mg eod
1-12 test ena 300-500mg
1-12 Dhb 200mg
1-12 masteron 200-400mg
Plus the same peptides as above.

What do you think if I add eq to it, or is that too much?

 

[Donvitosharkone]

Hello.

For a first cycle after a few years of stopping it is too much product and too much high dosage.

Take it slowly, knowing that you don't need that much. Returning to an old level requires less effort and less dose.

Save this cycle for later when you eventually want to break a plateauSave this cycle for later when you eventually want to break a plateau.

Man, first off:

huge respect for your background. The numbers you put up back in the day are elite level, no question… benching 238 raw at that bodyweight, squatting and pulling like that, you’ve got a foundation most guys will never touch.

And the discipline shows too: walking an hour daily, stretching, 6000 cals, hydration, supplements, protective agents… you’re not just daydreaming about a comeback, you’re already putting in the daily work. That’s the good: the mindset and structure are still there, and that’s what wins long-term.

Now the bad or better said, the red flags. At 44, after 7 years away and a medical history that already has “anabolic steroid abuse” stamped on it, diving straight back into a 16 week heavy stack with Test 750, NPP, DHB, then layering Masteron, Tren, thyroid hormones, plus peptides and SARMs all at once… that’s a minefield.

Even for a pro in peak health, that’s a lot of moving parts. For someone coming off years of inactivity and with flagged test levels, the risk of blowing out your health markers (lipids, blood pressure, heart strain, liver stress) is sky-high. Steroids do tend to “hit harder” after a long layoff, yes… but that’s exactly why moderation makes sense. You’ll get a response even from low/moderate doses right now, there’s no need to start back at “full pro stack” levels.

Sincere advice? Keep the fire, but scale the comeback smart.

I would say Start with a true TRT-style cruise 200–250ish mg test, nothing else… and let your body readapt to consistent training and nutrition for 3–6 months.

You’ll be shocked how much size, strength, and conditioning you can regain naturally with just that support because of muscle memory. Once you’ve rebuilt a base and your labs prove you’re handling it well, then consider layering in one compound at a time Primo, NPP, or even low-dose DHB but no need to throw in the whole kitchen sink. Keep the peptides if you like, they’re mild, but don’t drown yourself in IGF-1, CJC, YK11, Tren and thyroid meds all at once.

Bottom line: yes, you can absolutely come back strong after 7 years, and honestly the first cycle back will probably feel amazing. But if you go too hard, too fast, you risk losing the chance to sustain that comeback for your kid’s event and maybe even a comp down the road. Play it smart, scale gradually, and you’ll surprise yourself how much the old strength and shape return without burning yourself out in the first 16 weeks.

Shark

 

[jla90]

Man, first off:

huge respect for your background. The numbers you put up back in the day are elite level, no question… benching 238 raw at that bodyweight, squatting and pulling like that, you’ve got a foundation most guys will never touch.

And the discipline shows too: walking an hour daily, stretching, 6000 cals, hydration, supplements, protective agents… you’re not just daydreaming about a comeback, you’re already putting in the daily work. That’s the good: the mindset and structure are still there, and that’s what wins long-term.

Now the bad or better said, the red flags. At 44, after 7 years away and a medical history that already has “anabolic steroid abuse” stamped on it, diving straight back into a 16 week heavy stack with Test 750, NPP, DHB, then layering Masteron, Tren, thyroid hormones, plus peptides and SARMs all at once… that’s a minefield.

Even for a pro in peak health, that’s a lot of moving parts. For someone coming off years of inactivity and with flagged test levels, the risk of blowing out your health markers (lipids, blood pressure, heart strain, liver stress) is sky-high. Steroids do tend to “hit harder” after a long layoff, yes… but that’s exactly why moderation makes sense. You’ll get a response even from low/moderate doses right now, there’s no need to start back at “full pro stack” levels.

Sincere advice? Keep the fire, but scale the comeback smart.

I would say Start with a true TRT-style cruise 200–250ish mg test, nothing else… and let your body readapt to consistent training and nutrition for 3–6 months.

You’ll be shocked how much size, strength, and conditioning you can regain naturally with just that support because of muscle memory. Once you’ve rebuilt a base and your labs prove you’re handling it well, then consider layering in one compound at a time Primo, NPP, or even low-dose DHB but no need to throw in the whole kitchen sink. Keep the peptides if you like, they’re mild, but don’t drown yourself in IGF-1, CJC, YK11, Tren and thyroid meds all at once.

Bottom line: yes, you can absolutely come back strong after 7 years, and honestly the first cycle back will probably feel amazing. But if you go too hard, too fast, you risk losing the chance to sustain that comeback for your kid’s event and maybe even a comp down the road. Play it smart, scale gradually, and you’ll surprise yourself how much the old strength and shape return without burning yourself out in the first 16 weeks.

Shark

You are right and I rejected it. Above your post is a new plan. What do you think about it? I have a problem because the power level always increases drastically.

 

[jla90]

You are right and I rejected it. Above your post is a new plan. What do you think about it? I have a problem because the power level always increases drastically.

Do I understand correctly that the effect of steroids is almost the same as the first time? There weren't really any peptides/sarms in Finland when I last used them. All the information about the song is from blogs or product presentations. Is there any real benefit from them?
I won't start with just testo because I need to get results quickly. What do you think if I use testo and masteron first. How drastic is dhb? Because I've read about huge changes,

 

[jla90]

Man, first off:

huge respect for your background. The numbers you put up back in the day are elite level, no question… benching 238 raw at that bodyweight, squatting and pulling like that, you’ve got a foundation most guys will never touch.

And the discipline shows too: walking an hour daily, stretching, 6000 cals, hydration, supplements, protective agents… you’re not just daydreaming about a comeback, you’re already putting in the daily work. That’s the good: the mindset and structure are still there, and that’s what wins long-term.

Now the bad or better said, the red flags. At 44, after 7 years away and a medical history that already has “anabolic steroid abuse” stamped on it, diving straight back into a 16 week heavy stack with Test 750, NPP, DHB, then layering Masteron, Tren, thyroid hormones, plus peptides and SARMs all at once… that’s a minefield.

Even for a pro in peak health, that’s a lot of moving parts. For someone coming off years of inactivity and with flagged test levels, the risk of blowing out your health markers (lipids, blood pressure, heart strain, liver stress) is sky-high. Steroids do tend to “hit harder” after a long layoff, yes… but that’s exactly why moderation makes sense. You’ll get a response even from low/moderate doses right now, there’s no need to start back at “full pro stack” levels.

Sincere advice? Keep the fire, but scale the comeback smart.

I would say Start with a true TRT-style cruise 200–250ish mg test, nothing else… and let your body readapt to consistent training and nutrition for 3–6 months.

You’ll be shocked how much size, strength, and conditioning you can regain naturally with just that support because of muscle memory. Once you’ve rebuilt a base and your labs prove you’re handling it well, then consider layering in one compound at a time Primo, NPP, or even low-dose DHB but no need to throw in the whole kitchen sink. Keep the peptides if you like, they’re mild, but don’t drown yourself in IGF-1, CJC, YK11, Tren and thyroid meds all at once.

Bottom line: yes, you can absolutely come back strong after 7 years, and honestly the first cycle back will probably feel amazing. But if you go too hard, too fast, you risk losing the chance to sustain that comeback for your kid’s event and maybe even a comp down the road. Play it smart, scale gradually, and you’ll surprise yourself how much the old strength and shape return without burning yourself out in the first 16 weeks.

Shark

- That's why the doses of test and others are so high, because where I live, most of the products are UG preparations and their potency varies. I've used one real pharmacy Sustanon in my life and it was significantly stronger than the Sustanon I had in the cupboard in a 10ml bottle

 

[SJD]

Let me start by telling you about my background. The last time I was actively involved in bodybuilding was 7 years ago. I weighed 104.8 kg, my body fat percentage was 7% and my height was 178 cm. The results were bench press (raw) 238 kg, squat 7x10 cm 250 kg, deadlift 10x10 x 240 kg, neck press 5x5x150 kg. I started powerlifting when I was 14 and at 17 my bench weight was 170 kg (naturally). I started bodybuilding in 2012. I am now 44. In 2022, I had an accident and had to retire due to illness. About a month ago, the owner of a local gym asked me to coach the bench press. But I told him that I first need to gain credibility because I haven't done anything physical for 3.5 years. My muscles have atrophied and fat has replaced them, I weigh 113 kg. Now I have been training at home for 3 weeks and my pain has not increased. I got the idea for the 3v cruise and blast method. In 3 years, my child has an important event, and a bodybuilding competition is also a possibility. In addition, my testosterone level is below the permissible limit, but the doctors do not agree to replacement therapy. I have a diagnosis of anabolic steroid abuse, so that's why...
Then I plan that when I am not working, I can train bodybuilding like a pro. I have a training program that a top Finnish bodybuilder made for me, which I plan to use.
I also walk on the treadmill for an hour every morning. I also stretch every day and do active body care
My daily calorie intake is about 6000 and 3–4 liters of water.
I buy all the recommended vitamins, supplements, protective agents and anti-estrogens, etc.

First steroids cycle duration 16 weeks:
Weeks 1-3 Test prop/suspension 50mg eod
1-16 Test ena/cyp 500-750mg
1-8 Npp400mg ta
1-12 Dhb 200mg if the effect is weak then 3-400mg
12-16 Masteron ena 400mg
12-16 Tren ace 200mg
12-16 t4/t3
Test prop/suspension in between if you feel you need it or then halotest

Peptides and other use according to instructions
IGF-1 LR3
PEG-MGF
IPAMORELIN
YK11
CJC-1297
Levocarnitine

After this, cruise for some time when it goes
Test ena/cyp 200-300mg
Regular blood tests, careful nutrition and protective substances, etc. Blood pressure and cholesterol medications available.
I have been using hard Cycls my entire life.
I wonder if steroids give a better response when it has been 7 years since I last used them?

i think from my experience as an amateur bodybuilder that this cycle is a bit too heavy for 19nor compounds and general toxicity, also the doses don't scale up as you progress with the cycle which in my opinion having this high of a dose at the beginning of a cycle is a disadvantage for your androgen receptors, i would recommend you review it and maybe use just 1 19nor compound with a test base (500-750 is fine) and a dht derivative scaling up as the cycle goes on. remember i'm not a doctor and im not telling you what to do

 

[dr. Doping]

1-2 test propi/suspension 50mg eod

There is no reason to "kickstart" with test prop/suspension, ESPECIALLY if pinning everyday. Remember, suspension has a half life of about half an hour and prop has the half life of 0,8 days. You will wreck yourself with high estradiol and side effects that come from it.

DHB is a substance that I've never tested, and I've researched it and its results a lot. What do you think about this:
1-2 test propi/suspension 50mg eod
1-12 test ena 300-500mg
1-12 Dhb 200mg
1-12 masteron 200-400mg
Plus the same peptides as above.

What do you think if I add eq to it, or is that too much?

Also, if you want results quickly, forego most of what you wrote and just use the appropriate dose of test and GH. I can't stress enough how good just these 2 compounds are. I am completely convinced if you used 500-700mg of test per week and 6iu of growth hormone per day, you would definitively look better than you need in 6 months. Don't overcomplicate your life with DHB, tren, IGF1 or sarms. That comes down the line, when you've already exhausted more benign options. I understand you want results fast, we all do. But your stuborness will be the death of you if you start with this high dosages or harsher compounds, because you just can't cheat the laws of nature.

 

[SJD]

There is no reason to "kickstart" with test prop/suspension, ESPECIALLY if pinning everyday. Remember, suspension has a half life of about half an hour and prop has the half life of 0,8 days. You will wreck yourself with high estradiol and side effects that come from it.


Also, if you want results quickly, forego most of what you wrote and just use the appropriate dose of test and GH. I can't stress enough how good just these 2 compounds are. I am completely convinced if you used 500-700mg of test per week and 6iu of growth hormone per day, you would definitively look better than you need in 6 months. Don't overcomplicate your life with DHB, tren, IGF1 or sarms. That comes down the line, when you've already exhausted more benign options. I understand you want results fast, we all do. But your stuborness will be the death of you if you start with this high dosages or harsher compounds, because you just can't cheat the laws of nature.

yea i 100% agree with you, just test at 500mg and 4-6 IU of HGH is more than enough for serious clean gains with a diet plan and proper training, you'll get huge in no time

 

[jla90]

I would definitely take growth hormone. But here in the land of Santa Claus it is impossible to find the right growth hormone. I think I will try starting with just Testo ena. Also testo prop/suspension for the beginning and for hard training. They are not necessary, but training goes better with a small fast-acting testo supplement. The fast-acting testo supplement has been with me every time I have trained, and I have found it useful.

 

[dr. Doping]

I would definitely take growth hormone. But here in the land of Santa Claus it is impossible to find the right growth hormone. I think I will try starting with just Testo ena. Also testo prop/suspension for the beginning and for hard training. They are not necessary, but training goes better with a small fast-acting testo supplement. The fast-acting testo supplement has been with me every time I have trained, and I have found it useful.

Considering you are on Driada forums, why not buy theirs? I can guarantee it works, I am using it myself. This bulk I am on has been the most productive peroid of growth for me and I am pretty sure it's because of the GH, since it's my first time using it.

 

[jla90]

I would definitely order growth hormone, starting with growth hormone. The problem is that 80-90% of orders get stuck at customs when they arrive in the country. It also seems that driada doesn't even deliver to Finland. The website explains the properties of the different substances really well, so I've read them and also came here to the forum to get more information for the long cruice and blast method

 

[dr. Doping]

The problem is that 80-90% of orders get stuck at customs when they arrive in the country.

I didn't have any such issues when ordering from driada and I've made more orders than I can remember. Also GH shouldn't have issues waiting, liquid GH doesn't even have to be refrigerated and powder is, well, powder.

 

[jla90]

Where do you live? I know that ordering steroids is easy in some countries, but in my country it is not possible. All foreign packages are scanned and opened if they look suspicious.

Some time ago I was looking into ordering on different forums in my country. According to them, orders were successful 5-10 years ago, but nowadays most of the orders are stuck at customs. Especially if it is tablets and several vials. The penalty is not high if the amount of substances is suitable for personal use. But I don’t want to risk getting a criminal record and losing the substances.

 

[jla90]

En ole käyttänyt peptidejä paljon saatavuusongelmien vuoksi viime treenatessani. Olen tutkinut niitä paljon viime aikoina eri foorumeilla ja chatgpt:n kautta. Mutta haluaisin kuulla rehellisiä mielipiteitä niistä.
Olen ajatellut, että nämä otettaisiin käyttöön vaiheittain 3v-ryntäystä ja -risteilyä varten:
Ensimmäisen räjähdyksen kesto 12v.
Steroidit:
Testiannoksena 400–500 mg
Boldenoni 300-400 mg
Mast ena 300mg

Peptidi:
Ipamorelia 100 mikrogrammaa kaksi kertaa päivässä.
Mots-c 10 mg 3 kertaa viikossa.
CJC-1295 dac 2 mg kaksi kertaa viikossa.
BPC-157 250 mikrogrammaa kaksi kertaa päivässä.
TB-500 2 mg kaksi kertaa viikossa.

Lisäksi viikoilla 5–10
IGF-1 LR3 20–30 mikrogrammaa
RAD-140 10–15 mg

Viikot 11–12 IGF-1 LR3+RAD-140 jätetään pois


En voi lisätä tarvittavia vitamiinien yms. annoksia:
Tudca
Nac
Omeca-3
Q10
Kalium
Eksemestaasi
Ashaganda
Melatoniini
D3-vitamiini
K2-vitamiini
C-vitamiini
E-vitamiini
B1-12-kompleksi
Sinkki
Magnesium
Seleeni
Kalsium
Natrium+Kalium
Valkosipuliuute
Punajuuri
Tauriini
Maarianohdake
Kurkumiini
Granberry-uute
Vihreä tee
Ruusujuuri
Boori
Muut:
Kreatiini
Eaa/BCAA
L-glutamiini
Beeta-alaniini
Sitrulliinimaleaatti
L-karnitiini
Berbein
Kromipikoliini
Proteiinit yms.:
Hera-isolaatti
Kaseiini
Massanlisääjä
Proteiini hydrolyysissä
EAA-jauhe
Kollageenijauhe
Maltodekstriini
Deksroosi
Kaurajauho
HBCD
Hyviä rasvoja
MCT-öljy
Oliiviöljy
Maapähkinävoi
Avokadoöljy

Kerrothan myös mielipiteesi yllä olevista. Tekoäly havaitsi ne hyödyllisiksi ensimmäisen 12 viikon räjähdyksen aikana.
Tavoitteenani on päästä kehonrakennuskilpailujen pariin kolmen vuoden kuluttua.
Päivittäinen kalorien saanti 6000 ja nestettä 7-8 litraa räjähdyksen aikana päivässä.
Kuntosalitreenit 5 viikkoa Treeniohjelman laati minulle menestynyt ammattilaiskehonrakentaja.
4-5 viikkoa: Aamukävely juoksumatolla 45 minuuttia, syke 110-130

Aloita pienemmillä annoksilla tai ensin risteilytestillä ja lisää peptidejä vähän kerrallaan ja sitten steroideja, aloittaen yhdellä aineella kerrallaan ja pienellä määrällä, sitten toisella aineella jne.