Me dolio incluso leer esto. No entiendo por qué algunas personas se oponen a usar agujas de insulina (29 o 30G) para inyecciones intramusculares. Produce menos tejido cicatricial e irrita menos el músculo. La única desventaja es que hay que inyectar un poco más de tiempo, pero eso irrita menos el músculo, así que es un beneficio oculto.
It also hurts me to read such closed opinions without a more detailed explanation.... I don't think anyone has the absolute truth, especially in something that has so many variables....
But to claim that 30G is the best for all IMs?? In a glute and others, in my opinion, it is absolutely not the most correct. G23, or even G25.... But if that's not the case with the %BF and you don't give it exactly 90º... Bad.
I don't use 12mm insulin needles for IM for various reasons (there are many people, both bodybuilders and non-bodybuilders, who don't use them and won't use them). You can also ask doctors for their opinions to see their response; some will tell you different things about muscle injuries between using a 0.3/0.4 and a 0.6.... It's almost negligible versus the risk of abscesses from not reaching IM and getting stuck halfway. And if you are one of those who pinch the skin fold before injecting... It falls short by 12mm from the G30.
Loading 3/5ml through that needle at room temperature. normal, it can take you a good while.....And if you use several multi-dose vials with a thick rubber stopper, that needle tip dulls more easily because it's not designed for that. You will have to use needles and syringes separately, the G23 is for PAEDIATRIC use, I think for a big and strong man it won't hurt and you won't shed tears....
My reasons for using 23G:
1- In the 90s, there were no tutorials or forums on AAS, on how to administer the injections yourself, you would go to an "ATS practitioner," a nurse who would inject you and you paid for it.... There was no Internet at home, only a few used it through a modem, at 56Kbps over the phone's analogue line... A photo would take 5 minutes to download. And there was no information about this online.
1-My glutes, which are my favourite spot, don't always have a BF%7.... Not everyone who uses substances always has low BF, especially in that area. And in that area, you don't always inject at a 90º angle, which can be a problem and not reach the muscle with a 12mm needle. This 25mm needle allows me to use more comfortable angles for self-administration, without the risk of it being halfway between IM and SubC, causing lumps, abscesses...
2-I prefer using 25mm for the gluteus, which allows me to use angles of 50/60º, because for me, with my reduced flexibility due to my 51 years of age, it is not easy to self-administer in that area without a mirror or the help of another person. Additionally, the degrees of administration vary depending on the person's morphology and the area; with a 12mm needle at 50º, you can go just right, I don't need to push all the way to insert because there's more margin...
3-I'm old school, and it was unthinkable to use such a fine needle before. In the 90s, we used pharmacy-grade olive and peanut oils, then that ended, and in the 2000s, we used lab-grade ones. veterinarians (the oil was thick and painful, who knows what it was.... But there was nothing else to buy), then they also controlled the sale of veterinary products and the Lab appeared. Under South Americans from Venezuela, Mexico, Brazil... There were no other options... And the oily bases were dense and the substances, who knows where they came from.
4- We would shoot up in secret at home, or in the gym bathrooms. Using ASS and shooting up was very frowned upon back then; it was the era when shooting up was equivalent to being a junkie in Europe, thanks to heroin.... We did it in secret and quickly...
Now everyone knows that most of the big guys use AAS, and they even see their idols on TikTok and like that people know they use AAS.
Before, even drinking a protein shake or taking supplements was like doping with something that would kill you, that's how most people saw it.... Hydroxycut contained ephedrine, remember the Musclemag magazines, where their ads featured Celltech, Hydroxycut, and others, with photos of Lee Priest, or Sombaty, with pictures of before (Him in Bulk) and after taking these supplements (Before the competition). Celltech was 75% sugar and the rest creatine at a price of $60 for 100g.... What times, we were deceived by advertising and didn't have discussion forums

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5- with this needle, I don't need to heat the product, at home temperature, between 18/25º depending on the time of year, you take the vial from the cabinet and it's enough to load and inject comfortably and quickly, I don't have to take 15 minutes. in the loading process...
6- People are creatures of habit... And after 25 years, I no longer need to change, especially not to administer once or twice a week. Maybe for lifelong TRT and injecting 0.20ml of Testo with coconut oil and MCT every other day, I would do it...
As I said, let everyone publish their opinions and experiences, and value those of others even if they don't fully agree, especially when they are not "crazy." Because I wonder about the G18 or G19. Why were they designed back in the day? To cause harm and lesions, so you inject SYNTHOL....
Greetings.